Healthy Debate: IMG vs BG for #1

[GardenStateBaller]

4 hours ago, SeaShells21 said:

Who are your MNCs from the past 10 seasons?

Seasons 2013-2022.

 

2022 - Miami Central 

2021 -

2020 -

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My rankings were only birthed last season when we crowned MC our MNC. This season will be IMG. Who knows in 2024?

[GardenStateBaller]

31 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

Texas

DS would be #1 today if they had a win over MD, SJB or IMG. 

[954gator]

Lets be honest,  this isn't a great year to have a unanimous MNC winner.   I'd probably be more leaning to BG, Chami, or even MD over IMG but I didn't really get to watch much IMG this year.  

[GardenStateBaller]

On 12/11/2023 at 12:26 PM, 954gator said:

Lets be honest,  this isn't a great year to have a unanimous MNC winner.   I'd probably be more leaning to BG, Chami, or even MD over IMG but I didn't really get to watch much IMG this year.  

IMG                      Criteria                                   BG
44.9                    SOS                               43.2
0.649              Opp Win %                      0.629
#9 SJP        Best Win (Comp)            #12 Corner
3             # Wins vs State Champs            1
8                     #OOS wins                          4
 

[GardenStateBaller]

Less than a week before our 2023 MNC is crowned!! #playthebest #anyoneanywhere #nocowardsallowed 

[GardenStateBaller]

Final Poll Rankings for BG so far:

NationalHSFB.com #5

HSFA #5

CP #4

Blue Star #2

[Scott Coffee]

No real surprises. Suspect they will remain #1 in ESPN, MAxPreps, SI.  They also pickup the nod from Fox Sports Radio 

 

[GardenStateBaller]

9 minutes ago, Scott Coffee said:

No real surprises. Suspect they will remain #1 in ESPN, MAxPreps, SI.  They also pickup the nod from Fox Sports Radio 

 

Yup, looks like they’ll be three Champs crowned this season as expected. 

[Scott Coffee]

On 12/6/2023 at 5:01 PM, GardenStateBaller said:

DS would be #1 today if they had a win over MD, SJB or IMG. 

I think it will be 4 now that Massey has Desoto as #1

[GardenStateBaller]

3 minutes ago, Scott Coffee said:

I think it will be 4 now that Massey has Desoto as #1

Damn!! The more, the merrier!

[GardenStateBaller]

Updated Tale of the Tape

@Antt

[Scott Coffee]

I understand the arguments as to why you are one of 2  polls to rank IMG above BG.  That said, if your the national championship came down to IMG vs. BG then I am confused as to how BG is ranked below SJB and MD based on your criteria.  

I look at common opponents Cent10 where SJB barely pulled out a 1 point win and MD won by 2 td's---BG won by 4 Td's.

I also look at the fact that the SJB and MD were beaten during the year in ways inconsistent with top billing---SJB by then unranked Kahuku and MD losings in convincing fashion to SJB 28-0.

In addition to BG, I think Desoto, IMG and CM all have legitimate claims, but MD and SJB are probably behind all those schools as the best 1 loss team in the nation. 

There were some questions raised concerning BG's defense, but BG gave up less points against Liberty over 8 quarters than SJB did over 4. 

On a side note, I don't think OOS wins is compelling given that BG was limited by state rules  to 4 OSS games. 

 

[GardenStateBaller]

1 hour ago, Scott Coffee said:

I understand the arguments as to why you are one of 2  polls to rank IMG above BG.  That said, if your the national championship came down to IMG vs. BG then I am confused as to how BG is ranked below SJB and MD based on your criteria.  

I look at common opponents Cent10 where SJB barely pulled out a 1 point win and MD won by 2 td's---BG won by 4 Td's.

I also look at the fact that the SJB and MD were beaten during the year in ways inconsistent with top billing---SJB by then unranked Kahuku and MD losings in convincing fashion to SJB 28-0.

In addition to BG, I think Desoto, IMG and CM all have legitimate claims, but MD and SJB are probably behind all those schools as the best 1 loss team in the nation. 

There were some questions raised concerning BG's defense, but BG gave up less points against Liberty over 8 quarters than SJB did over 4. 

On a side note, I don't think OOS wins is compelling given that BG was limited by state rules  to 4 OSS games. 

 

I spoke to those few Head Coaches who played both BG and MD/SJB. The majority said that both MD and SJB were superior teams than BG this season mainly due to BGs young and porous Defense. 

I have BG behind C-M because in my opinion they struggled more vs MC in Vegas than C-M did on the road at Traz. 

Per our published criteria, our MNC has to have at least one, elite OOS win. BG has solid OOS wins (#14 Corner and #15 Cen10). Just not as good as IMGs (#8 SJP and #18 BD) in my opinion. IMGs SOS is 1.7 points greater, which shows they played a tougher schedule from top to bottom. 

PS...I had this same exact discussion with Coach Browner last week. 

[Sammy Swordsman]

Looks like the debate is settled and sanity has prevailed.  Per the Composite.

#1   Stache

#2  The Bishop

Big Gap

#4 IMG

[GardenStateBaller]

4 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

Looks like the debate is settled and sanity has prevailed.  Per the Composite.

#1   Stach

#2  The Bishop

Big Gap

#4 IMG

Yup, it's awesome that four (4) different teams were crowned MNCs this season and each will be celebrating in their own ways!