Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Here’s dctf region 3 prediction back this summer at the bottom of the page. https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2021/07/14/2021-class-6a-region-iii-outlook-predictions-for-every-district-projected-playoff-matchups-and-regional-winners?ref=related_thumb I don't subscribe to that, but I'm guessing they're putting Katy and Westlake in division 1. Dave Campbell's rankings had Northshore as the preseason 4th best team in 6A Here's the preseason rankings below 1. Westlake 2. Katy 3. SLC 4. NS 5. Duncanville All of the teams above made the Semi's I don't care about who they picked to go to the finals because that's based on what division they'll be placed in. That's very hard to predict, and that's the reason you have so many different finalists. Edited March 23, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: I don't subscribe to that, but I'm guessing they're putting Katy and Westlake in division 1. Dave Campbell's rankings had Northshore as the preseason 4th best team in 6A Here's the preseason rankings below 1. Westlake 2. Katy 3. SLC 4. NS 5. Duncanville All of the teams above made the Semi's I don't care about who they picked to go to the finals because that's based on what division they'll be placed in. That's very hard to predict, and that's the reason you have so many different finalists. Regional Winners Division I – Katy over Humble Atascocita Division II – Clear Falls over Alvin Shadow Creek Yes, they projected Katy D1. This is who they predicted out of region 3 to be regional winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: I don't subscribe to that, but I'm guessing they're putting Katy and Westlake in division 1. Dave Campbell's rankings had Northshore as the preseason 4th best team in 6A Here's the preseason rankings below 1. Westlake 2. Katy 3. SLC 4. NS 5. Duncanville All of the teams above made the Semi's I don't care about who they picked to go to the finals because that's based on what division they'll be placed in. That's very hard to predict, and that's the reason you have so many different finalists. But this whole exercise is based on the argument some ppl didn’t predict NS to be in the finals NS didn’t strengthen their cause of making finals once the season got under way either Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: It’s based on more than that. On field results matter too, obviously NS was ranked above Westfield preseason and we saw how that worked h2h. NS didn’t strengthen their cause of making finals once the season got under way. No, it's based on that. It's preseason they predicted Katy in division 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: No, it's based on that. It's preseason they predicted Katy in division 1. But our whole argument is based on some ppl not predicting NS to make the finals and even once the season started NS didn’t strengthen their argument. They lost to a team ranked lower than them. Westfield wasn’t even preseason top 10 Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: But our whole argument is based on some ppl not predicting NS to make the finals and even once the season started NS didn’t strengthen their argument. They lost to a team ranked lower than them. Your argument is that nobody expected NS to make the finals let alone win it. That's what you quoted. The preseason 4th ranked team isn't expected to make the finals. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Your argument is that nobody expected NS to make the finals let alone win it. That's what you quoted. The preseason 4th ranked team isn't expected to make the finals. Lol I provided evidence to support my position. I told you from the beginning that opinion started in preseason. They weren’t even projected to win their region. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 16 hours ago, SeaShells21 said: If you understood that North Shore wasn’t supposed/expected to be there in the first place, maybe you wouldn’t be questioning them. Couldn't be more clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: I provided evidence to support my position. I told you from the beginning that opinion started in preseason. They weren’t even projected to win their region. Lol They weren't based on assumptions that certain teams would be in their division. You know teams that Dave Campbell had ahead of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: Couldn't be more clearer Yes, they weren’t expected to be there. So what changed for them to get there steeler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Steeler01 said: They weren't based on assumptions that certain teams would be in their division. You know teams that Dave Campbell had ahead of them That’s what a prediction is! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: That’s what a prediction is! Lol The prediction had teams not in their division in their region lol. That's your argument. Hell I predict SJB to win Texas 6A division 1. They had the same chance as Katy last year after the teams were picked You failed in this back and forth just cause you had to chime in NS was expected to be in the finals or at least the Semi's depending on the teams in their region. That's a far cry from not expected to make the finals. You know what isn't expected a team that's ranked 20th or so, but the 4th ranked preseason team cmon NS was ranked 4th but nothing was expected of them lol. There's 4 finalists in Texas. Edited March 23, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Yes, they weren’t expected to be there. So what changed for them to get there steeler? The same thing that happened for Guyer, DeSoto, Dekaney etc the top teams in their regions play in a different division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I can always count on you to take a ridiculous stance, but it killed time while I waited here in Orlando international Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: The same thing that happened for Guyer, DeSoto, Dekaney etc the top teams in their regions play in a different division Here were the week 9 rankings, after they knew Katy would go D2. Notice Atascocita was ranked ahead of NS. So even after Katy was removed, pollsters didn’t have NS as the best in their district nor region 1 Austin Westlake (7-0) W: Buda Hays, 77-0 1 2 Katy (8-0) W: Katy Cinco Ranch, 49-3 2 3 Southlake Carroll (7-0) Idle 3 4 Duncanville (5-1) W: Waxahachie, 52-3 5 5 Humble Atascocita (7-1) W: Houston King, 42-21 6 6 Rockwall-Heath (6-1) Idle 7 7 Spring Westfield (7-0) W: Aldine MacArthur, 70-0 8 8 Galena Park North Shore (7-1) W: Humble Summer Creek, 45-18 9 9 Lake Travis (6-1) W: Del Valle, 52-17 10 10 Allen (6-1) W: Denton Guyer, 38-31 11 Your problem is you don’t know half as much as you pretend. research instead of talking so much! Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Here were the week 9 rankings, after they knew Katy would go D2. Notice Atascocita was ranked ahead of NS. So even after Katy was removed, pollsters didn’t have NS as the best in their district nor region 1 Austin Westlake (7-0) W: Buda Hays, 77-0 1 2 Katy (8-0) W: Katy Cinco Ranch, 49-3 2 3 Southlake Carroll (7-0) Idle 3 4 Duncanville (5-1) W: Waxahachie, 52-3 5 5 Humble Atascocita (7-1) W: Houston King, 42-21 6 6 Rockwall-Heath (6-1) Idle 7 7 Spring Westfield (7-0) W: Aldine MacArthur, 70-0 8 8 Galena Park North Shore (7-1) W: Humble Summer Creek, 45-18 9 9 Lake Travis (6-1) W: Del Valle, 52-17 10 10 Allen (6-1) W: Denton Guyer, 38-31 11 Your problem is you don’t know half as much as you pretend. research instead of talking so much! Week 9. Week 10 what happened? Preseason what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: Week 9. Week 10 what happened? Preseason what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) The problem you have is you prop to much of everything Texas up Edited March 23, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 You want this notion that nobody can predict Texas because it's so deep BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Week 9. Week 10 what happened? Preseason what happened? Well steeler week 10 they beat Atascocita (baileys first start) . And of course that’s when you became enlightened about NS. Lol Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Well steeler this is the week after they beat Atascocita. you do know the more info that is collected the easier it is to make predictions. Katy was removed from D1, NS corrected themselves with a QB change. all things happened during the course of 10 weeks. Lol Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: You want this notion that nobody can predict Texas because it's so deep BS Steeler just face the fact you are wrong and move on. There were several predictors before the season and well after it started (that I provided) that NS wasn’t projected to win its region. Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: North Shore probably loses to Atascocita at least once if not for Cita’s starting quarterback being hurt. Hes probably not aware sessions got hurt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, pied said: Funny how message board conversations go. Everyone would agree that NS is a top 10 probably top 5 program in Texas the last ~5-10 years. They were ranked by Dave Campbell as the #4 team in the state. MaxPreps had them as the #3 team in the state. Now we're nitpicking whether they were predicted to be in the state finals. Perhaps not, but to think they were a surprise is a dopey take. Pied that’s what the conversation was about, predictions and when they were made. So their Freshman QB performing the way he did was not a surprise to you? (Never mind the fact he was even trusted/handed the keys to the offense) Edited March 23, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, pied said: Sure, but is the fact that a preseason top 4 team in the state made the finals? nope No one argued that it was ridiculous that a preseason #4 team made the finals, only that they simply weren’t projected to do so because the team ranked ahead of them was from their region (Katy) But even during the bulk of the season they weren’t projected to do so because at the time Atascocita was ranked ahead of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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