Horsefly Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: They’re one of the ones that missed the cut. IMO, the 12 teams listed for DFW have had far more success than Martin in the playoffs. Similar to Westfield in that they don’t finish off strong. That’s exactly who they’re performance is like: Westfield. I’d like to see the two play in predistrict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: They’re one of the ones that missed the cut. IMO, the 12 teams listed for DFW have had far more success than Martin in the playoffs. Similar to Westfield in that they don’t finish off strong. My point is there are other schools capable being on this list and capable of being good Martin, Bowie, Mansfield ISD will eventually have solid team. Summit took 6A Oklahoma Champion Jenks to OT. I keep waiting for Mansfield High. What about Flower Mound Marcus or other LISD schools. Prosper has good program I see them staying competitive. SOC - time will tell - Did winning state give them the edge they needed to keep players from not transferring? Something they struggled with in the past! They probably belong on the list now for this year. Frisco ISD best - can be pretty darn good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I got to believe Coppell will have more good teams over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenfrmdab Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 12:54 PM, Nolebull813 said: Texas will have 4 huge OOS games this year minimum this year Liberty vs ‘Cita Desoto vs SFA Allen vs SJB Duncanville vs (TBA) Yessir, that DeSoto VS SFA👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Texasball said: My point is there are other schools capable being on this list and capable of being good Martin, Bowie, Mansfield ISD will eventually have solid team. Summit took 6A Oklahoma Champion Jenks to OT. I keep waiting for Mansfield High. What about Flower Mound Marcus or other LISD schools. Prosper has good program I see them staying competitive. SOC - time will tell - Did winning state give them the edge they needed to keep players from not transferring? Something they struggled with in the past! They probably belong on the list now for this year. Frisco ISD best - can be pretty darn good too. I’m not arguing that there’s not more than 12 good teams in DFW. I reside in this metroplex. I’m familiar with the teams in my backyard. I stay in the Argyle/Flower Mound area so this is my neck of the woods. I was just making it easier for non Texans to know where the most preeminent teams are from. It’s easy to get lost with the amount of talented teams there is in this state. One team that I thought has always had potential is South Grand Prairie. Remember who Duncanville was before Samples? Yeah, that’s basically South Grand Prairie. They have talent, just need someone to steer them in the right direction. But then again, that’s a recurring theme with a lot of programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 12:54 PM, Nolebull813 said: Texas will have 4 huge OOS games this year minimum this year Liberty vs ‘Cita Desoto vs SFA Allen vs SJB Duncanville vs (TBA) You're welcome!! #PGL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stevenfrmdab said: Yessir, that DeSoto VS SFA👀 I will be shocked if Desoto wins that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenfrmdab Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, Texasball said: I will be shocked if Desoto wins that game. Fr me too😭 SFA got too much talent to lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Texasball said: I got to believe Coppell will have more good teams over time. Teams like Coppell, Marcus, Flower Mound, amongst others, should be perennial powers with the amount of resources they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: I’m not arguing that there’s not more than 12 good teams in DFW. I reside in this metroplex. I’m familiar with the teams in my backyard. I stay in the Argyle/Flower Mound area so this is my neck of the woods. I was just making it easier for non Texans to know where the most preeminent teams are from. It’s easy to get lost with the amount of talented teams there is in this state. One team that I thought has always had potential is South Grand Prairie. Remember who Duncanville was before Samples? Yeah, that’s basically South Grand Prairie. They have talent, just need someone to steer them in the right direction. But then again, that’s a recurring theme with a lot of programs. SGP typically plays solid football. They beat Trinity when DLS couldn’t lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Stevenfrmdab said: Fr me too😭 SFA got too much talent to lose Desoto hasn’t, that i recall, beaten a team they were an underdog to. This won’t be any different, they’ll be young so I’m sure they’ll use this as a launch point for their young players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmore410 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: You're welcome!! #PGL CAN WE GET SFA OUT TO THE WEST COAST TOO THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY CEN10 OR BISHOP GORMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, Bmore410 said: CAN WE GET SFA OUT TO THE WEST COAST TOO THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY CEN10 OR BISHOP GORMAN Yes!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 11:33 PM, Devildog said: TX actually has a long history of OOS games. We are a public State and I dont know of any other public State that has played these teams the last 17 years. Bellevue 2x, STA, Cocoa 2x, East UT, Bingham UT, Shiloh Christian, ECA, LA, ECA, DE, Bellevue 2x, IMG 3x, DLS, MD, SJC (DC), LaSalle, OH, St. Joe's, PA, JC, LA, Buford, GA, Jenks, Union. Broken Arrow, Bixby, Salpointe Catholic, AZ, Anchorage South, Ak, Venice, Fl, Hoover, Al, Dutch Fork, SC, Olive Branch, MS, Bryant, AR, Rockhurst, MO, Miramar, Fl, Dillard, Fl, BTW, Fl, Plant, Fl. Off the top of my head. But people think Texas avoids OOS. We don't. The coaches dont like to travel. Many of these teams are State champs or runner ups. If I add our Privates it's a lot more. To include IL, TN and others Just curious…how many of those games were actually played out of state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: Just curious…how many of those games were actually played out of state? Since we’re on topic, I also wonder how many public California HS teams travelled OOS when facing a non Cali team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildog Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: Just curious…how many of those games were actually played out of state? Jenks, union, glades Central, Bentonville, Bellevue, Salpointe Catholic, Bryant Ar. Colerain, Howland, WM, JC ECA, La. Off my head are teams played on the road. We are a public State. No public's go running all over the country. Our Privates have travelled all the way to Ireland and played an Illinois team. I'm pretty sure no other States Publics have played that many National powers either home or road. SLC, Allen, Katy, Abilene, Desoto, Longview, Skyline, ET, WL, Steele, Dville. Name Brand TX powers have played damn near 55 OOS games. They have notable losses. But they have beaten multiple Champs or State runner ups. Not looking it up. None have more than 3 losses if memory serves me right. Close to 40 wins among them AL, AR, CA, FL, LA, OK, SC, UT, WA. All State Champs or runnerups beaten by Texas. AR, LA, OK and FL more than 2 beaten. Pretty sure more than 15 of them. Cedar Hill lost to BTW, BG and beat LaSalle, OH. They have had the worst time vs OOS. Not 1 that lost OOS went on to win State only 2 made it. Dville last year and CH. Jenks, Union, Plant, DF, Hoover, DLS, JC, WM, Bentonville, Bellevue, Bingham, Venice, FL. Chaminade Madonna, ECA, La. Were either Champs or runnerups and beaten by TX non Champs mostly. Edited February 27, 2022 by Devildog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Just curious…how many of those games were actually played out of state? Texas has played several on the road in Florida, Ok, LA, WA, OH Edited February 27, 2022 by Texasball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, Texasball said: Texas has played several on the road in Florida, Ok, LA, WA, OH The last two OOS losses to IMG and MD by a combined 69 points just doesn't look good for a so-called "Power" state. Showing well this season should silence some of the critics. FYI....In 2021 the top public in CA, Cen10, only lost to MD by 5 point. 5 vs 42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The last two OOS losses to IMG and MD by a combined 69 points just doesn't look good for a so-called "Power" state. Showing well this season should silence some of the critics. FYI....In 2021 the top public in CA, Cen10, only lost to MD by 5 point. 5 vs 42. You keep bringing up Duncanville. They were not #1 in Texas. A matter of fact they never finished #1 under samples. how well do you think CA #2 public, mission Viejo, would have done vs MD? We know how well they did vs Cen10 (lost 62-16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: You keep bringing up Duncanville. They were not #1 in Texas. A matter of fact they never finished #1 under samples. how well do you think CA #2 public, mission Viejo, would have done vs MD? We know how well they did vs Cen10 (lost 62-16) IMHO games bewteen the top teams from "Power" states should always be competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 39 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The last two OOS losses to IMG and MD by a combined 69 points just doesn't look good for a so-called "Power" state. Showing well this season should silence some of the critics. FYI....In 2021 the top public in CA, Cen10, only lost to MD by 5 point. 5 vs 42. That’s bull shit. Texas isn’t going anywhere just cause they got beat by recruiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The last two OOS losses to IMG and MD by a combined 69 points just doesn't look good for a so-called "Power" state. Showing well this season should silence some of the critics. FYI....In 2021 the top public in CA, Cen10, only lost to MD by 5 point. 5 vs 42. I would say it looks worse for CA when Thing 2 lost to Bishop Gorman twice; then at least once went on to beat the rest of California and win state 😌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: IMHO games bewteen the top teams from "Power" states should always be competitive. no one is playing MD, not Florida not GA so that is a convenient excuse. And if they did they’d get waxed the same. Did you give Fla and state champ central a hard time for losing to a much weaker SJB 35-12 last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildog Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: IMHO games bewteen the top teams from "Power" states should always be competitive. When our State Champ loses, let us know. Name a State that has beat more OOS Champs than Texas the last 15 yrs. There is a Cali Big School Skin on our wall. IMG is the only School that has played TX more than once and has not lost. Arlington Martin beat Desoro worse before IMG played them. Dville got topped by SLC. WL was a clear #1. The year WL lost to Liberty, NV when 4* QB Sam was hurt and didn't play go look what LT did to WL. So should a Power State Champ lose fo a 1st rd loser from another State. The Ga big School champ lost 55 - 0 to power State Fl. FL big School Champ,got smoked 38 - 3 vs Ga. Funny no Texas Champ has lost OOS. When a top TX team lose OOS they don't win State. SLC, DV, Skyline, Abilene, ET, CH, WL, Steele. All State powers lost OOS, now go see what happened to them in State. A Young Skyline under Samples lost 38 - 3 STA. Go see what happened in State to them in the playoffs. CH lost to BG a game that got away in the 4th. BG a great team. Desoto beat them twice. Abilene beat SLC after losing to MNW. Here's the kicker these OOS teams were all time greats or among their best ever. Yet in State teams beat our losing Team as much ot more in those loses 90% of the time. You would have to beat every top 10 team in Texas to eventually beat our Champ. DOESN'T HAPPEN HERE. THE ONLY POWER STATE WITH THIS CLAIM. Our non State Champs have over 11 OOS champs on our wall. Edited February 27, 2022 by Devildog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Horsefly said: no one is playing MD, not Florida not GA so that is a convenient excuse. And if they did they’d get waxed the same. Did you give Fla and state champ central a hard time for losing to a much weaker SJB 35-12 last year? Nothing but kudos to MC for keeping in close last season vs SJB and BG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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