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[pied]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

Rutherford was a 2nd round loser and Lamar was a 1st round. Neither teams made noise in their respective states. I don’t think that is a good measuring stick in any type of criteria whatsoever 

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

Rutherford was a stet finalist the year before.  Lamar was a quarter finalist the year prior(if memory serves) and had their most talented team in the history of the program.  They got upset by a surprising Copperas Cove team, that made a strong run.

 

IMO - it's hard to judge in hindsight, because you don't know how it will end up.  Here's a line from the leadup to the game.  You can only do so much, hard to predict the future.

 

Both teams came into the game with impressive resumes. Lamar was 10-2 last season in Class 5A, the highest class in Texas football. This season, the Vikings are ranked among the top three teams in Texas.

Rutherford, ranked No. 1 in the Florida high school preseason poll, was 13-1 in 1997, its only loss coming in the Class 5A championship game.

 

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1998-09-06-9809060343-story.html

 

Edited February 25, 2022 by pied

[pied]

1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said:

C'mon, man! That was 17+ years ago. Duncanville plays OOS games annually. That should be the standard for all the best in TX! 

 

 

I'm just saying, a typical Texas response was made on a thread today:

 

....Ours isnt perfect but we dont have travel budgets to go more than one state over to find quality competion to play.
 

[GardenStateBaller]

26 minutes ago, pied said:

 

 

I'm just saying, a typical Texas response was made on a thread today:

 

....Ours isnt perfect but we dont have travel budgets to go more than one state over to find quality competion to play.
 

No need to travel. It's perfectly fine hosting elite teams from all around America. 

[WILKINSON]

13 hours ago, Horsefly said:

That’s not true.  Duncanville, trinity, Allen, cedar hill have faced top teams in football without issue. 

Was going through some archives trying to find TX teams that have faced quality OOS competition before and stumbled upon Euless Trinity's pinnacle.

 

Euless Trinity went almost an entire decade (2008-2017) facing out-of-state opponents in Pre-District. The year where they went one season without facing a non Texan team was in 2011. 

 

Their most remarkable opponents were:

De La Salle (CA)

Bellevue (WA)

Bingham (UT)

John Curtis (LA)

[Devildog]

11 hours ago, WILKINSON said:

I think this might be the biggest slate of marquee OOS games that Texas has ever played? Could be way wrong. My TX football history doesn’t go way back as others. Moved here in 2018.

TX actually has a long history of OOS games.  We are a public State and I dont know of any other public State that has played these teams the last 17 years.  Bellevue 2x, STA, Cocoa 2x, East UT, Bingham UT, Shiloh Christian, ECA, LA, ECA, DE,  Bellevue 2x, IMG 3x, DLS, MD, SJC (DC), LaSalle, OH, St. Joe's, PA, JC, LA, Buford, GA, Jenks, Union. Broken Arrow, Bixby, Salpointe  Catholic, AZ, Anchorage South, Ak, Venice, Fl, Hoover, Al, Dutch Fork, SC, Olive Branch, MS, Bryant, AR, Rockhurst, MO, Miramar, Fl, Dillard, Fl, BTW, Fl, Plant, Fl.  Off the top of my head.  But people think Texas avoids OOS.  We don't.  The coaches dont like to travel.  Many of these teams are State champs or runner ups.  If I add our Privates it's a lot more.  To include IL, TN and others

Edited February 26, 2022 by Devildog

[WILKINSON]

2 hours ago, Devildog said:

TX actually has a long history of OOS games.  We are a public State and I dont know of any other public State that has played these teams the last 17 years.  Bellevue 2x, STA, Cocoa 2x, East UT, Bingham UT, Shiloh Christian, ECA, LA, ECA, DE,  Bellevue 2x, IMG 3x, DLS, MD, SJC (DC), LaSalle, OH, St. Joe's, PA, JC, LA, Buford, GA, Jenks, Union. Broken Arrow, Bixby, Salpointe  Catholic, AZ, Anchorage South, Ak, Venice, Fl, Hoover, Al, Dutch Fork, SC, Olive Branch, MS, Bryant, AR, Rockhurst, MO, Miramar, Fl, Dillard, Fl, BTW, Fl, Plant, Fl.  Off the top of my head.  But people think Texas avoids OOS.  We don't.  The coaches dont like to travel.  Many of these teams are State champs or runner ups.  If I add our Privates it's a lot more.  To include IL, TN and others

Thanks for the info!

I'm impressed by Abilene's 2010 schedule, very ambitious. They had 3 OOS opponents that year. Went 2-1.

Cocoa (FL)

Plant (FL)

Franklinton (LA)

 

That same year, 7 Texas teams played against Florida teams:

 

St. Thomas Aquinas (FL) vs Dallas Skyline

Miami Central (FL) vs Dallas Madison

Miramar (FL) vs DeSoto

Cocoa (FL) vs Abilene

Plant (FL) vs Abilene

Glades Central (FL) vs Dallas Skyline

Glades Central (FL) vs Denison

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by WILKINSON

[Horsefly]

5 hours ago, WILKINSON said:

Was going through some archives trying to find TX teams that have faced quality OOS competition before and stumbled upon Euless Trinity's pinnacle.

 

Euless Trinity went almost an entire decade (2008-2017) facing out-of-state opponents in Pre-District. The year where they went one season without facing a non Texan team was in 2011. 

 

Their most remarkable opponents were:

De La Salle (CA)

Bellevue (WA)

Bingham (UT)

John Curtis (LA)

Yep they went 3-1 with those games.  

[Horsefly]

[Horsefly]

Just now, Horsefly said:

I thought this was interesting, top 6 programs the past 6 years.  Small school ball dominated this list 

[GardenStateBaller]

TX guys, Whose your Top 5 entering 2022? Thx. 

[Horsefly]

2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

TX guys, Whose your Top 5 entering 2022? Thx. 

@pied @WILKINSON @Devildog@Texasball @txjesse @SeaShells21This is 6A only.
Westlake

north shore 

Guyer 

SLC 

Katy 

(Desoto, Duncanville, ridge point, Allen and lake travis are in my next 5)

5A SOC might have the personnel this year  to crack the top 5 regardless of class. 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Horsefly

[pied]

Will be interesting to see SOC’s non district schedule with Duncanville/DeSoto as well as Parish. 

[Horsefly]

43 minutes ago, pied said:

Will be interesting to see SOC’s non district schedule with Duncanville/DeSoto as well as Parish. 

Absolutely! I like SOC’s scheduling.  There will be no debate which team is the best this preseason along the i20 corridor 

[SeaShells21]

3 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

TX guys, Whose your Top 5 entering 2022? Thx. 

In no order:

Katy: Katy can always be a threat to run the tables, no matter the year. Until coach Joseph retires; they will be around.

Duncanville: No one from Dallas has been able to stop Carroll or Duncanville. Samples and Riley will likely be in the mix again. I think DeSoto is a year away of starting top 5.

Carroll: See above

North Shore: I was kind of surprised to see North Shore run the tables so soon after the DD, Evans and Banks group. It will be fun to see if they can do that again. 

Westlake: I guess Westlake for the fifth. They have won three in a row and it will be interesting to see if their new coach can keep them going. Their team has been there, done that so they still will be tough to stop come playoffs.

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by SeaShells21

[Texasball]

14 hours ago, WILKINSON said:

Was going through some archives trying to find TX teams that have faced quality OOS competition before and stumbled upon Euless Trinity's pinnacle.

 

Euless Trinity went almost an entire decade (2008-2017) facing out-of-state opponents in Pre-District. The year where they went one season without facing a non Texan team was in 2011. 

 

Their most remarkable opponents were:

De La Salle (CA)

Bellevue (WA)

Bingham (UT)

John Curtis (LA)

Union and Jenks both had really good teams

[Texasball]

On 2/25/2022 at 12:03 AM, Texasball said:

SLC beat JSERRA Trinity league 7-0 at JS home field tonight

they also beat team from Arizona 14-3 prior to that

They play Orange Lutheran tomorrow 

Orange Lutheran beat SLC 2-0 

SLC is 3-1 with one game remaining vs Cypress CA  - 

apparently according to the broadcaster for SLC they basically have two teams playing.

The only game Orange Lutheran played in this event was against SLC 

SLC played 2 games on Thursday and 2 more on Friday.  I believe they only play 1 game today.  5 games in 3 days 

 

[Texasball]

8 hours ago, Horsefly said:

Yep they went 3-1 with those games.  

Trinity played Tulsa Union same year they played Bellevue .   I was at both games.  Union vs Trinity was equally as close as Trinity vs Bellevue 

[WILKINSON]

55 minutes ago, Texasball said:

Union and Jenks both had really good teams

I agree. Broken Arrow wasn’t too shabby either. 
Southlake Carroll, DeSoto, Euless Trinity always challenged themselves playing the top Oklahoma schools. Nowadays, usually only the Mansfield schools schedule those OK teams. 

[WILKINSON]

Since 2019, Allen has had at least one Houston team on their schedule in pre district. 
 

2019- Dickinson 

2020- Atascocita 

2021- Atascocita 

2022- Houston C.E. King 

[Texasball]

On 2/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, WILKINSON said:

 

Since this is a national forum, and the world doesn't revolve around Texas, I thought I would create this graphic to make it easier for those unfamiliar with the Texas teams and which metro area they're from.

For Houston and DFW, I only included the 12 most formidable teams that I thought people would be familiar with or teams that have had recent success in their respective region, I might've left some teams out. Texas is a large state with many teams so it's easy to get confused with them and forget some.

DFW has a lot more brand names that are known nationally, but Houston has a lot of up-and-comers and would even argue that they have a deeper field of talented teams, Dallas is more top-heavy. 

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

[Texasball]

On 2/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, WILKINSON said:

 

Since this is a national forum, and the world doesn't revolve around Texas, I thought I would create this graphic to make it easier for those unfamiliar with the Texas teams and which metro area they're from.

For Houston and DFW, I only included the 12 most formidable teams that I thought people would be familiar with or teams that have had recent success in their respective region, I might've left some teams out. Texas is a large state with many teams so it's easy to get confused with them and forget some.

DFW has a lot more brand names that are known nationally, but Houston has a lot of up-and-comers and would even argue that they have a deeper field of talented teams, Dallas is more top-heavy. 

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

[Texasball]

On 2/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, WILKINSON said:

 

Since this is a national forum, and the world doesn't revolve around Texas, I thought I would create this graphic to make it easier for those unfamiliar with the Texas teams and which metro area they're from.

For Houston and DFW, I only included the 12 most formidable teams that I thought people would be familiar with or teams that have had recent success in their respective region, I might've left some teams out. Texas is a large state with many teams so it's easy to get confused with them and forget some.

DFW has a lot more brand names that are known nationally, but Houston has a lot of up-and-comers and would even argue that they have a deeper field of talented teams, Dallas is more top-heavy. 

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

[Texasball]

On 2/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, WILKINSON said:

 

Since this is a national forum, and the world doesn't revolve around Texas, I thought I would create this graphic to make it easier for those unfamiliar with the Texas teams and which metro area they're from.

For Houston and DFW, I only included the 12 most formidable teams that I thought people would be familiar with or teams that have had recent success in their respective region, I might've left some teams out. Texas is a large state with many teams so it's easy to get confused with them and forget some.

DFW has a lot more brand names that are known nationally, but Houston has a lot of up-and-comers and would even argue that they have a deeper field of talented teams, Dallas is more top-heavy. 

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

[Texasball]

On 2/22/2022 at 8:39 PM, WILKINSON said:

 

Since this is a national forum, and the world doesn't revolve around Texas, I thought I would create this graphic to make it easier for those unfamiliar with the Texas teams and which metro area they're from.

For Houston and DFW, I only included the 12 most formidable teams that I thought people would be familiar with or teams that have had recent success in their respective region, I might've left some teams out. Texas is a large state with many teams so it's easy to get confused with them and forget some.

DFW has a lot more brand names that are known nationally, but Houston has a lot of up-and-comers and would even argue that they have a deeper field of talented teams, Dallas is more top-heavy. 

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

[WILKINSON]

5 minutes ago, Texasball said:

There is still teams that could make this list.  Arlington Martin should probably be on the DFW list.

 

They’re one of the ones that missed the cut. IMO, the 12 teams listed for DFW have had far more success than Martin in the playoffs. Similar to Westfield in that they don’t finish off strong.