Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 The issue to me isn’t even the metro/suburban thing even though that is stupid. The main issue I have is 9 fucking classes. Are you kidding me? Jesus Christ, when it was 8 I thought that was about 2-3 too many. And they add another! This participation trophy society is running amok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 181pl said: Dumb AF idea. Our next Q&A session will be on this divisive topic. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 When they say the 8 most populous counties is the metro, are they counting just high school aged boys, or the total population of babies and old people? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 of the 8 metro counties that everyone is so afraid of have never won a state title in Florida high school football history. Not one team, one time from either county has won one damn title in the last 60 years of state championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Here is the most populous counties. The top 8 are the vaunted metro division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Here is the most populous counties. The top 8 are the vaunted metro division Didn't they switch Seminole in the place of Lee County? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 181pl said: Dumb AF idea. You were against moving from runner ups to wild cards so you just hate any form of change GET OUT OF THE 1960s! This state classifications are broken because the "good ole boys" of the Florida State legislature passed school choice which allowed open transfer rules and allowed public schools to get 15-20+ transfers in a single off-season which has made it impossible for any team not in those metro counties to win state titles unless they can steal talent from other counties nearby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: The issue to me isn’t even the metro/suburban thing even though that is stupid. The main issue I have is 9 fucking classes. Are you kidding me? Jesus Christ, when it was 8 I thought that was about 2-3 too many. And they add another! This participation trophy society is running amok They could have 4 classifications and if they using student enrollment as the only factor for it then it will STILL BE HOT GARBAGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: The issue to me isn’t even the metro/suburban thing even though that is stupid. The main issue I have is 9 fucking classes. Are you kidding me? Jesus Christ, when it was 8 I thought that was about 2-3 too many. And they add another! This participation trophy society is running amok I have an idea Since by your logic more championships mean participation trophies 1 classification for entire state, meaning everyone from Madison County to Miami Central and St Thomas Aquinas are in one classification 32 teams make playoffs as ranked by calpreps and everyone who doesn't make it get a voice message "you suck and are garbage work harder" from the FHSAA Since by your logic any more than one state champion is participation trophy mindset Nolebullshit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Didn't they switch Seminole in the place of Lee County? You could he right. I think they are going by density not overall pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: You could he right. I think they are going by density not overall pop. That's what I heard coming out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I would be ok with them having one 64 team bracket and Josh picks 8 voters to vote for the top 64 and they play it off! Me, ColumboFan, Josh are 3 so we need 5 more. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, Nolebull813 said: I would be ok with them having one 64 team bracket and Josh picks 8 voters to vote for the top 64 and they play it off! Me, ColumboFan, Josh are 3 so we need 5 more. Lol Nope has to be 32 because anymore we are letting "losers" into the bracket 😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: I would be ok with them having one 64 team bracket and Josh picks 8 voters to vote for the top 64 and they play it off! Me, ColumboFan, Josh are 3 so we need 5 more. Lol I actually like that kinda of committee selection idea but it would need to be seen what criteria is used for selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, Columbiafan said: Nope has to be 32 because anymore we are letting "losers" into the bracket 😂😂 I can dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: I actually like that kinda of committee selection idea but it would need to be seen what criteria is used for selection Yeah there would need to be an unbiased standard that is used. Not some regional quotas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: The issue to me isn’t even the metro/suburban thing even though that is stupid. The main issue I have is 9 fucking classes. Are you kidding me? Jesus Christ, when it was 8 I thought that was about 2-3 too many. And they add another! This participation trophy society is running amok Jesus! 9 classes now!? I agree with you with about the participation trophies. I've been bitching about this for Tennessee for years, to no avail. TN has 5 classes when they should have no more than 3 based on population of the state. Back when I played there we had 3 classes (that included the privates). The playoffs were no joke back in those days. A state championship was definitely earned back then. I miss that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, Omaha Vol said: Jesus! 9 classes now!? I agree with you with about the participation trophies. I've been bitching about this for Tennessee for years, to no avail. TN has 5 classes when they should have no more than 3 based on population of the state. Back when I played there we had 3 classes (that included the privates). The playoffs were no joke back in those days. A state championship was definitely earned back then. I miss that! Our next Q&A will be covering this topic in-depth. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 another fhsaa disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, 181pl said: another fhsaa disaster Well this was caused because the state legislature lead by those "good ole boys" passed a state law that made it impossible to stop transfers and yet it's funny I see you continue to want public vs private split yet guess what It's the same state legislature who won't let the FHSAA do that The disaster here is the leadership at the top of this state doesn't give a damn about education or public schools because they would rather everyone attend a private school so they don't have to invest anything into education because private schools are not state funded like public schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Well this was caused because the state legislature lead by those "good ole boys" passed a state law that made it impossible to stop transfers and yet it's funny I see you continue to want public vs private split yet guess what It's the same state legislature who won't let the FHSAA do that The disaster here is the leadership at the top of this state doesn't give a damn about education or public schools because they would rather everyone attend a private school so they don't have to invest anything into education because private schools are not state funded like public schools Public schools are a failure because they have to keep the worst of the worst in there disrupting teachers and learning. Also, I work close to a high school and there is 50 kids at any time of the day skipping school. Just randomly walking around the streets at all hours. These schools are being funded with the belief that these 50 loser punks are attending school. So however much money they spend per student is being thrown in the toilet. The way you help public school funding is you get rid of the garbage kids who don’t want an education, and use the money for upgrades afterwards. If taxpayers pay about $6,000 on average per public kid for everything and 50 of them are skipping, fighting, etc that’s $300,000 down the drain per school! Edited March 3, 2022 by Nolebull813 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 It’s actually $7,400 per year!! Jesus Christ. What a fucking waste. That money should have the option to attend a private school to help a kid who really wants to learn and make something out themselves but their parents can’t afford it. They are stuck in some dumpy public school that costs taxpayers the same amount of money it would cost to send them to a private school for no reason. Damn shame. That’s why public schools are afraid to expel kids who fight, bring frogs to school, skip etc etc. they want the money to keep rolling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The FHSAA might as well rename it "The Florida High School Sectional Championship." You can have a true state champion if there's separation in classes with the same population numbers. They know it, but don't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: The FHSAA might as well rename it "The Florida High School Sectional Championship." You can have a true state champion if there's separation in classes with the same population numbers. They know it, but don't care. By definition it can’t be a “state” championship. Metro is an area of a state. Same with the suburbs or rural parts. They are areas of the state. They have to be renamed the 4A Metro Area Championship, the 2A Suburban Area Championship etc etc. Not the state championship, because that is false advertising. Edited March 3, 2022 by Nolebull813 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: By definition it can’t be a “state” championship. Metro is an area of a state. Same with the suburbs or rural parts. They are areas of the state. They have to be renamed the 4A Metro Area Championship, the 2A Suburban Area Championship etc etc. Not the state championship, because that is false advertising. Totally agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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