Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: SOS is our top criteria here. Would you rather have SFA be 2-0 after today beating slappies? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: SOS is our top criteria here. Would you rather have SFA be 2-0 after today beating slappies? SFA is playing a brutal schedule but you have to beat some of those teams if your gonna play Can't go schedule 7 top 10 teams and lose all of them and say you should be ranked up there with those teams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Hsfbfan said: Nope Exactly. Can’t penalize teams for competing favorably against the best in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Softballguy said: SFA is playing a brutal schedule but you have to beat some of those teams if your gonna play Can't go schedule 7 top 10 teams and lose all of them and say you should be ranked up there with those teams I disagree as long as they’re competitive, which they have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said: Yes but this isn't college football. There isn't a true national championship. There isn't a playoff. We really domt have a true conclusion at the end of the year so really ranking in HS football nationally is basically useless. Espn capitalized on it to intrigue people to tune in USA today was ranking national champs back in the 80s, ESPN may have commercialized it but they weren't the first to capitalize on high school sports on a national scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: I disagree as long as they’re competitive, which they have been. For now but does that mean if they lose all 7 top 10 games your gonna keep them ranked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Softballguy said: USA today was ranking national champs back in the 80s, ESPN may have commercialized it but they weren't the first to capitalize on high school sports on a national scale Ok....but the point is the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Softballguy said: For now but does that mean if they lose all 7 top 10 games your gonna keep them ranked? He shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: Exactly. Can’t penalize teams for competing favorably against the best in the USA. Yea but when u lose consistency to top teams they gotta drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, pied said: I'd suggest you move being a good football team up in your criteria. Then those said teams need to start scheduling elite teams if they want a high ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Hsfbfan said: Ok....but the point is the same Preseason rankings are just starting points, most will change significantly week to week and as the season progresses. Some teams high up pan out and win a bunch and others fizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, Softballguy said: Preseason rankings are just starting points, most will change significantly week to week and as the season progresses. Some teams high up pan out and win a bunch and others fizzle Yep absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Softballguy said: For now but does that mean if they lose all 7 top 10 games your gonna keep them ranked? They’ll stay ranked as long as they don’t lost to anyone ranked behind them like ESL and WEST UT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Just now, pied said: If you watch this SFA team and think they're an elite team, then that's on you. They look to be a ~5-5 team. In addition to not being great on te field, they are undisciplined and that just cost them a chance to get the ball back. A sideline infraction on 4th and 6? Come on now... They are always undisciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: SOS is our top criteria here. Would you rather have SFA be 2-0 after today beating slappies? I agree that SFA is playing a top schedule. And no I would not rather have them beat slappies. But they do need to be competitive. In these 2 games they look unprepared and outmatched. They need to be competitive in these games to be considered a top tier team, which they are not right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 HAHAHA Where you at @GardenStateBaller Broward County takes the showcase!!!! No USA sweep! Broward is 10-2 in two years with the only losses coming from the garbage FL teams. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: I agree that SFA is playing a top schedule. And no I would not rather have them beat slappies. But they do need to be competitive. In these 2 games they look unprepared and outmatched. They need to be competitive in these games to be considered a top tier team, which they are not right now. Yeah I have to agree Ton of respect for SFA not backing down but they can't get blasted and get a free pass because the teams are good, scheduling and losing every big game proves nothing Edited August 26, 2023 by Softballguy 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Sometimes you win the big games, sometimes you lose. For example Central has quite a few big OOS losses, but they've also won a bunch. You're going to lose games when you schedule tough. It is what it is. Edited August 26, 2023 by 954gator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Softballguy said: Yeah I have to agree Ton of respect for SFA not backing down but they can't get blasted and get a free pass because the teams are good, scheduling and losing every big game proves nothing 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, pied said: Down 35-14, and they get a personal foul on the kickoff return. Inner city football. Been that way for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, pied said: And #7 takes it to the house AGAIN. 28-14, 6:20 to go What part of SFA is supposed to eb very good? Not pass defense, not rush defense and not their offense. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsfbfan Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Have a great day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, 954gator said: Sometimes you win the big games, sometimes you lose. For example Central has quite a few big OOS losses, but they've also won a bunch. You're going to lose games when you schedule tough. It is what it is. Yeah but when Miami Central lost SJB and Bishop Gorman back to back people were quick to question them despite having a lot of OOS success prior to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, pied said: Agree 100%. If you don't know who these teams are, you would have stopped watching some time ago. Short run for Chaminade and a face mask PF against SFA. I did when it was 14-7. Found myself snoring on the couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 48 minutes ago, pied said: If you watch this SFA team and think they're an elite team, then that's on you. They look to be a ~5-5 team. In addition to not being great on te field, they are undisciplined and that just cost them a chance to get the ball back. A sideline infraction on 4th and 6? Come on now... They beat DS by 40 last season. No TX is considered Tier 1 or elite as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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