Columbiafan

2 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

Not counting 2913 means dismissing the Kyler Murray eta at Allen, MC and Bergen beating The Bishop etc 

 

It's just another example of twisting facts to support the agenda of MC as #1 even though MC blatantly dodged CM.

 

I don't think Central dodged Chaminade but claiming Miami Central is the only public to beat IMG is false 

1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said:

We all know that's not today's IMG. We're talking about the modern era of HSFB. In that respect IMGs only five losses are to SJC, SFA x2, MD and MC. 

I don't see how 2013 and 2014 are significant changes in eras as absolutely nothing significant happened between those 2 seasons in the state of Florida that made any real impact on the playing level 

1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said:

We all know that's not today's IMG. We're talking about the modern era of HSFB. In that respect IMGs only five losses are to SJC, SFA x2, MD and MC. 

That's like saying that any losing season by Columbia prior to the playoff era in Florida (1963) era doesn't count 

So they only have 5 losing seasons in a span of almost 60 years 

2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Stop it with the KOC BS! 

If you clicked on the link you would see IMG in 2013 lost to Naples and TCA

Naples is a Florida public school down in Collier County (it's basically down the road from that event where Bishop Gorman played Miami Central last year and where Treasure Coast beat AHP) 

Naples currently is in the 3S classification and lost to Dunbar last week who is now playing Mainland in the state semifinals on the opposite side of the 3S bracket from Columbia vs Lake Wales

41 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Stop it with the KOC BS! 

Naples wasn't a KOC

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

LOL....we're talking regular season games, not scrimmage! 

So was I

https://www.maxpreps.com/fl/bradenton/img-academy-ascenders/football/13-14/schedule/

So IMG has lost TWICE to public schools, both from Florida in addition to Columbia in the KOC

So Florida publics have beaten IMG something no other state can say 

#FloridaTopDog

28 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

MC is the ONLY public program to ever defeat IMG. And they did it on the road. Nuff said.  

False 

3 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

A split MNC between MC and Chaminade would be a complete travesty.  It also would never happen. 

In today's game with the emphasis among the Big boys to win a MNC, the Fla powers should make an effort to play each other either in pre league or push to restructure the playoff format.

 

 

Is it any different than a split involving other teams in any other year

You typically won't know how the other national powers will do in preseason so you can't make changes around it 

If the people with the power really cared they would get all state associations on the same page and get a formal national playoff set 

Honestly whether Central is better than Chaminade is tough to call (I think both should get a share of a national title) but either way the best 2 teams in the country this year are from Florida so one of them should get the crown 

3 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

A big problem for MC regarding the MNC is no that one can state for certain if they are even the best team in Fla.  Due to the wacky playoff divisions (sans on open division).

How can they claim MNC when they haven't beat the best in Fla?

That's never stopped a Florida team from Winning a national title before 

23 minutes ago, 181pl said:

STA will smack around CM 

They wouldn't this year 

Just because some clowns on that other national site who don't know who Chaminade is think they are garbage don't mean they are right 

@Nolebull813

1R

Hawthorne

Union

1S

First Baptist

Trinity Catholic

2S

Florida High

Cocoa

3S

Columbia

Mainland

4S

Lakeland

Venice

1M

Chaminade Madonna

University Christian

2M

Miami Central

AHP

3M

Jones

STA

4M

Columbus

Apopka

18 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

@181pl STA refuses to schedule C-M annually. 

AHP played scheduled both CG and C-M this season

C-M played AHP

CG played AHP 2x

In our poll STA is behind C-M and AHP because #nocowardsallowed

Gibbons played twice because one was a playoff game 

Honestly surprised Chaminade vs STA hasn't happened more 

@954gator when's last time those 2 played?

31 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

And yet 999% of teams are still petrified to schedule them! 

I assume you meant 99.9%?

And I'm aware I just don't see why, if you have a good program and people of loyalty your not gonna lose kids to them, Columbia played them a few years ago and nobody left to play for IMG

2 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

According to you IMG has been consistently overrated.

And I stand by that but it's still considered a significant win by most national polls

And even overrated I still see IMG as top 25 nationally

I just think lately they are closer to 11-25 range 

20 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

All polls have to be based somewhere.   The fact remains that MC has no OOS wins and were beaten badly (not even competitive) vs. SJB last season.   Both teams improved since then and MC has presented no evidence that they closed the gap.

I consider IMG an OOS win 

2 hours ago, 181pl said:

Maxpreps had sjb leapfrog MC after the NW game so this is likely academic unless sjb loses in the open bowl to a much weaker Norcal team?

MaxPreps is a CA bias poll that only holds credibility because they promote their product to enough people to get noticed 

Idk the transfer rules of California well enough to know if player movement is strict but I can tell you now that in Florida most of the metros it's no different for a public school in Dade, Broward or Duval county to get a kid than any private since those counties typically don't operate at capacity like you may see in Hillsborough

1 hour ago, Texasball said:

It’s the level of recruiting and you know there is difference in how privates like SJB, MD and others do it vs 99.9% of publics

I know C-M is really good.  Not 100% if they are top 10 if not really close

Miami Central has gotten 20+ transfers the last 5 years 

That's a higher rate than ANY private in Florida

And I get it Miami Central is the top dog in Dade County and every stud wants to be there but I can tell you right now they are getting talent EASIER than any private in Florida is (since IMG Academy is a academy based boarding school they aren't the same as the other private schools like STA, AHP, Chaminade, etc which aren't boarding schools)

As a result under the current state law (thanks Rick Scott) a school like Miami Central or Northwestern has the same ability to get kids as any private school in Florida can 

1 hour ago, Texasball said:

The super recruited privates should all be playing one another.  This wouldn’t be so hard.

I thought MD had some game changing calls both not called and called that cost them the game.

one TD pass SJB clearly blocking down field with ball in the air- not called 

the block punt TD

 

Yeah because only privates recruit?

Also still think Chaminade didn't deserve to be ranked top 10 nationally?

56 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

No I thought Choctaw had a chance after beating Pine Forest 

Surprised you didn't stick by rule #3 of the nolebull evaluation process

"If they are Tallahassee or further west they are HOT GARBAGE!!" 😂

3 hours ago, Lowso305 said:

you mean jesuit, that homestead jones game will be one of the better games of the playoffs. 

He likely meant those 2 will be in the finals 

5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

I gotta pick all the underdogs to either close the gap or get blown out. Lol. 

Honest question?

You only picked Choctawhatchee because you knew I was picking Columbia no matter what and you were hoping for an upset 😂

19 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

What's the tally so far? 

18-8 for me in head to head through 3 rounds (Edgewater vs Jones only Saturday game and we both picked Jones)

Not sure on overall since I don't think nolebull was tracking the games where we picked same teams

@Nolebull813

I went 2-1 this week