Columbiafan

10 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Huge drop off after MC and the few power privates. 

No different than any other power state with multiple top 5 teams in the country, wait does any other state besides CA have that?

25 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

I don’t think anyone seen this coming after Homestead lost to Southridge. Now MNW once was a top 5 FL team will all but guarantee be a 5 loss team. 

I had them at #11 in preseason and was criticized for not having them in the same range as Miami Central

#BestFloridaRankings #HatersGonnaHate

21 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

44-28!!!! LMAO! Man get out of here. Homestead got beat down by a team ranked in the 1,000’s!!!!! And then made MNW look like a JV team 

Florida the deepest state in the country 

Florida > Georgia

Miami Northwestern

10 minutes ago, DillardHighBoyz954 said:

But ely is hyped & they have ZERO notable wins at all lol whewww Lawd 

Hyped by who? I haven't seen anyone on this board hyping up Ely for anymore than the fact they finally winning more than 3 games 

3 minutes ago, DillardHighBoyz954 said:

Miramar has 4 shutouts on the year beat a very good plantation team & won by 42 last week & now currently shutting out a western team on the road who was considered a 4M contender. 
 

but people sleep on (6-1) soon to be (7-1) Miramar because Dillard beat them (35-7)

Actually people probably sleeping on Miramar because before tonight they had only beaten 1 team above .500

19 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Anyone with half a brain knew that MC was going to be better than MNW coming into this season. 

36-20 now for homestead near midway point of 3rd quarter

And bulls fans were telling me that Miami Northwestern was so better than Central and I was a moron for not having the bulls top 5 in the state 

Who's the moron now 🤣🤣

I see Cajun chump on the other site whining about Tampa Bay Tech inclusion yet was trying to say that Tallahassee Lincoln was a "good" team 

Some people should really leave Florida to the experts and shut their mouths 

Btw Lincoln just lost by double digits to sub .500 Rickards last Friday and likely cost themselves the district championship

2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Damn. Still won’t have any effect on their ranking or playoff eligibility. 

Unless the ineligible player played in more than one game 

Only thing it did was take away their undefeated season

18 minutes ago, All Dei said:

Why is that?  As a CA fan, I'm ignorant, but curious, as everyone seems to agree on that.  

There were 2 major factors that allowed the panhandle to get so good in the 70s and 80s which led to several teams having sustained runs of success and even into early to mid 90s and that was the way teams back then played based on running game and big offensive lines which Is where the teams from Tallahassee to Pensacola thrived on 

The other factor was before the open transfer movement statewide the zoning were strict but because of there being several military bases out in that region families would get moved and stationed out there so it was a long-term exception to the strict player movement

But as the game moved to spread offenses you started seeing metro areas get better as speed became the priority which is not the strong suit 

So basically the game changed and the panhandle fell behind the Jacksonville and SFL areas and Orlando Tampa ect 

That's not even including someone like Miami Central, AHP, Cardinal Gibbons, Chaminade Madonna, Miami Northwestern etc. In the state of Florida

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Yes. If you take out the top FL, GA, CA and TX teams what prominent teams are left to schedule? 

Maryland/DC (WCAC), Bishop Gorman, St Louis (typically good even if they fell off this year), AZ (Chandler vs IMG would be a good one), NJ Privates (Don Bosco or Bergen Catholic)

I probably missing some since I haven't followed national level as close this year but there are definitely teams out there that on the top level should be capable of playing IMG 

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

Yes. If you take out the top FL, GA, CA and TX teams what prominent teams are left to schedule? 

Well outside of STA what top Florida teams won't play IMG?

1 hour ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Tracking them all, and you are correct in your concern with Pine Forest.   The schedule is not loaded with the exception of Niceville, but it is the Florida panhandle after all where there is not a lot of competition.    Shame that they don't venture into Alabama for some games.

The biggest problem with Pine Forest and those panhandle teams typically is when they play a panhandle only schedule their SOS is reliant on how good the panhandle is that particular season and it typically is one of the weakest areas in Florida

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

The power privates will always have a ranking edge since their SOS will always be higher than most pubs. 

Yeah but In the case of IMG their SOS isn't on par with what it was in past seasons

Are you telling me of all the power privates in the top 50/100 in the country the only teams at that level they can get is SFA and public Miami Central?

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

Most teams are pertified to schedule them. And CA and GA are prohibited from doing such. Beggars can't be choosers! 

Where did GA ban it?

1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said:

SFA and IMG are the most feared teams in America when it comes to scheduling. They cannot be blamed or penalized in any way for the quality of their annual schedules in this respect. Doing such would allow the cancel culture to prevail. And nobody wants that. 

SFA was able to schedule several nationally ranked teams 

Chaminade was able to schedule one of the best non conference schedules in the country 

AHP has a great schedule and resume 

How do all of them get great teams throughout the schedule but IMG can only get 2 teams inside the top 50/100? 

IMG generally has a good schedule so why would the schedule have suddenly dropped this year but not any year prior, it's not like teams just suddenly realized how loaded IMG is, they have known for years!!

1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said:

All HSFB polls are unique and they each have their own, distinct nuances. That's why no two will ever be exactly alike. And that's a good things at this level. 

But all polls typically during the season separate good teams from great teams by comparing the resume and wins 

That's through stuff like SOS and ranked wins which is used by ALL ranking outlets including you which you have used to justify several teams including SFA at the #1 spot for example

It's also how a team like Mater Dei is valued higher than say for example TCA, because Mater Dei has a stronger SOS and more nationally ranked wins even though both are undefeated from a power state 

I also would keep an eye on Buchholz vs Bartram Trail this week, both are undefeated. Buchholz schedule is okay and same with Bartram but Buchholz is coming off a 12-2 season and considering I saw them play last year and this year they look to be as good as the team a year ago but Bartram Trail has looked better against a few common opponents this year and I actually put Bartram Trail one spot ahead of Buchholz heading into the week as I could see a potential for Bartram Trail to win that game and the district title 

16 minutes ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Not a lot of major changes, just some fine tuning around the edges.

1.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (8-0)

2.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (7-1)

3.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (8-1)

4.       Miami (FL) Central (7-0)

5.       Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy (5-0)

6.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (7-0)

7.       Chandler (AZ) (6-0)

8.       Buford (GA) (7-0)

9.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (6-0)

10.   Corona (CA) Centennial (7-1)

11.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (5-1)

12.   Austin (TX) Westlake (6-0)

13.   Nashville (TN) Lipscomb Academy (8-0)

14.   Houston (TX) North Shore (7-0)

15.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (6-1)

16.   Duncanville (TX) (6-0)

17.   Fairburn (GA) Langston Hughes (8-0)

18.   Denton (TX) Guyer (6-0)

19.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (6-1)

20.   Katy (TX) (7-0)

21.   Miami (FL) Columbus (8-0)

22.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (6-1)

23.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (7-0)

24.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (7-0)

25.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (7-0)

26.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (6-1)

27.   Belleville (MI) (8-0)

28.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (7-1)

29.   West Chester (OH) Lakota West (9-0)

30.   Long Beach (CA) Poly (8-0)

31.   Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (8-1)   

32.   Lakeland (FL) (6-0)

33.   Bixby (OK) (7-0)

34.   Baton Rouge (LA) Catholic (5-1)

35.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (6-1)

36.   Allen (TX) (6-1)

37.   Folsom (CA) (7-1)

38.   Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (7-1)

39.   Humble (TX) Atascocita (6-1)

40.   Tampa (FL) Tampa Bay Tech (7-0)

41.   Longview (TX) (7-0)

42.   Kahuku (HI) (7-2)

43.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (7-0)

44.   DeSoto (TX) (6-1)

45.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (8-0)

46.   Nashville (TN) Montgomery Bell Academy (8-0)

47.   Mission Viejo (CA) (7-1)

48.   East St. Louis (IL) (6-2)

49.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (8-1)

50.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (7-2)

51.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (7-1)

52.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (8-0)

53.   ­Peoria (AZ) Liberty (6-0)

54.   Indianapolis (IN) Cathedral (7-1)

55.   New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr (6-0)

56.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (8-0)

57.   Arlington (TX) Martin (6-1)

58.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (6-1)

59.   Bryant (AR) (6-0)

60.   Ellenwood (GA) Cedar Grove (5-2)

61.   Pittsburg (CA) (6-1)

62.   Chesapeake Bay (VA) Oscar Smith (5-0)

63.   St. Louis (MO) Christian Brothers (7-1)

64.   Highland Springs (VA) (8-0)

65.   Pensacola (FL) Pine Forest (7-0)

66.   Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (5-1)

67.   Lehi (UT) (10-0)

68.   Los Alamitos (CA) (6-2)

69.   Roebuck (SC) Dorman (7-0)

70.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (6-1)

71.   Cibolo (TX) Steele (7-0)

72.   Inglewood (CA) (9-0)

73.   Washington (DC) St. Johns (5-2)

74.   Little Rock (AR) Pulaski Academy (7-0)

75.   Destrehan (LA) (7-0)

76.   Valdosta (GA) (8-0)

77.   Hoover (AL) (8-1)

78.   Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (7-1)

79.   Ramsay (NJ) Don Bosco Prep (5-2)

80.   Brandon (MS) (7-0)

81.   Tulsa (OK) Union (7-0)

82.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (5-1)

83.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (7-1)

84.   Miami (FL) Northwestern (4-3)

85.   Hampton (VA) Phoebus (6-0)

86.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (6-1)

87.   Venice (FL) (3-2)

88.   Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate (7-1)

89.   Liberty (MO) North (8-0)

90.   Sammamish (WA) Eastside Catholic (7-0)

91.   Louisville (KY) St. Xavier (7-1)

92.   Franklin (IL) Lincoln-Way East (8-0)

93.   Kernersville (NC) East Forsyth (8-0)

94.   Dallas (TX) Highland Park (7-0)

95.   West Hills (CA) Chaminade (8-0)

96.   Zachary (LA) (5-1)

97.   Florence (SC) West Florence (8-0)

98.   Fishers (IN) Hamilton Southeastern (9-0)

99.   Cincinnati (OH) Elder (6-2)

100.   Dallas (TX) Parish Episcopal (6-1)

In terms of the Florida teams Pine Forest is way too high, only win so far this year is over a Niceville team that barely escaped 3-5 Chiles and 3-4 Crestview

If your looking for a Florida team to replace them I would recommend TCA, Orlando Jones or Sanford Seminole

8 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

On 11/18 if IMG loses to #1/2 SFA, they'll still be ranked above STA in this poll. If IMG ever gets upset by an low-ranked slappie, then that's a different story. The latter will never happen, though. IMO MC, C-M, IMG and AHP are all better than STA as of today. 

Yeah because outside of Miami Central and SFA their schedule in 2022 is very weak for a national power and so far they are 0-1 in that slate of games 

Most years IMG would have even with Miami Central loss probably made up for it with 2-4 top 50/100 wins since then

IMG likely has 0 of those this season and could be heading for their second loss against the only national powers they played this year

And I get IMG will be top 10 in preseason because preseason polls lean heavily into the "on-paper" talent but in terms of resumes and wins what exactly has IMG done in the "2022" season to earn top 10 in the country?

8 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

On 11/18 if IMG loses to #1/2 SFA, they'll still be ranked above STA in this poll. If IMG ever gets upset by an low-ranked slappie, then that's a different story. The latter will never happen, though. IMO MC, C-M, IMG and AHP are all better than STA as of today. 

If IMG loses to SFA they deserve to drop out of the top 10 IMO 

Can you name any poll currently that has a team with 2 losses and no top 50/100 wins and is still ranked in the top 10?

What about AHP though?