Lowso305 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: You do if you want to win a Natty! The Broward teams are doing everything right in this respect. They'll win at MNC before any Dade team does. What county in America has more MNC’s than miami dade? I’ll wait… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 36 minutes ago, Lowso305 said: What county in America has more MNC’s than miami dade in the modern-era of HSFB? FIFY and the answer is 1, MC in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MC ROCKETS Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 My biggest issue is the basis of west coast teams in the polls. It's the same 3 every year. It's set up for those teams to lose the MNC as a pose to another school winning it. As I mentioned NO school not named SJB, MD, or BG would even be in discussion with one or two losses in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 6 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: My biggest issue is the basis of west coast teams in the polls. It's the same 3 every year. It's set up for those teams to lose the MNC as a pose to another school winning it. As I mentioned NO school not named SJB, MD, or BG would even be in discussion with one or two losses in the season. It's not where you start, but where you finish. A gentle reminder that the last two seasons our MNCs were IMG and MC, two east coast teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: It's not where you start, but where you finish. A gentle reminder that the last two seasons our MNCs were IMG and MC, two east coast teams. Valid point...I'm speaking in reference to other polls, which I know you have no say so in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 13 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: Valid point...I'm speaking in reference to other polls, which I know you have no say so in. NationalHSFB.com is part of both the MaxPreps and HSFA Composite Rankings so we do have some influence at seasons end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 22 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: FIFY and the answer is 1, MC in 2022. Booker T Washington in 2013 ain't modern era?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 @Nolebull813 can you do the SOS math on what Chaminade Madonna SOS is for their non conference games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Softballguy said: @Nolebull813 can you do the SOS math on what Chaminade Madonna SOS is for their non conference games? Playing SJB this season will def help C-M overall SOS. As long as SJB doesn't have a down year like SFA did last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 21 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Playing SJB this season will def help C-M overall SOS. As long as SJB doesn't have a down year like SFA did last season. I still want to see the non conference SOS because I'm still convinced their SOS would be very close to IMG if they didn't have district games dragging them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 And SFA for being down nearly beat IMG while Chaminade beat SFA easily Chaminade was always the better team and I talked to someone who's seen SFL for over 30 years who felt the same and in fact felt Chaminade would have beaten IMG by anywhere from 10-14 last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 23 minutes ago, Softballguy said: And SFA for being down nearly beat IMG while Chaminade beat SFA easily Chaminade was always the better team and I talked to someone who's seen SFL for over 30 years who felt the same and in fact felt Chaminade would have beaten IMG by anywhere from 10-14 last year C-M was trailing at half. Only after the SFA QB went down with an injury in Q3 did the tide turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 C-M has had many opptys to host IMG. They simply will not do it. And let's not forget what Gorman did to C-M in 2022. #49-14 If the similar happens this year vs SJB in Lauderdale, you'll have no legs left to stand on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 9 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: C-M has had many opptys to host IMG. They simply will not do it. And let's not forget what Gorman did to C-M in 2022. #49-14 If the similar happens this year vs SJB in Lauderdale, you'll have no legs left to stand on. If we gonna bring up 2022 then Central beat IMG and IMG proceeded to schedule Bartram Trail and Pine Forest as their lone Florida teams Those teams had as much shot of competing with IMG as those district teams had of being competitive for Chaminade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Still doesn't change the fact that those district games dragged Chaminade SOS down which otherwise would have been a very damn good schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 11 minutes ago, Softballguy said: If we gonna bring up 2022 then Central beat IMG and IMG proceeded to schedule Bartram Trail and Pine Forest as their lone Florida teams Those teams had as much shot of competing with IMG as those district teams had of being competitive for Chaminade A friendly reminder that yours truly was the ONLY national pollster in America to crown MC as National Champs in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 23 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: A friendly reminder that yours truly was the ONLY national pollster in America to crown MC as National Champs in 2022. Yes and I was very vocal then that they were deserving of the championship almost as vocal as I was about Chaminade being better than IMG last year Idk why Chaminade vs IMG didn't work itself out but even so that doesn't prove that Chaminade couldn't have beaten them Mater Dei can't play IMG but does that mean Mater Dei isn't good enough to beat them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 41 minutes ago, Softballguy said: Yes and I was very vocal then that they were deserving of the championship almost as vocal as I was about Chaminade being better than IMG last year Idk why Chaminade vs IMG didn't work itself out but even so that doesn't prove that Chaminade couldn't have beaten them Mater Dei can't play IMG but does that mean Mater Dei isn't good enough to beat them? C-M can schedule IMG, but they refuse to. Coach Jones is petrified to do such. MD would def schedule IMG if their state association permitted such. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 54 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: C-M can schedule IMG, but they refuse to. Coach Jones is petrified to do such. MD would def schedule IMG if their state association permitted such. Big difference. Coach Jones scheduled the team that already proved they were better than IMG (Miami Central) and the team that has beaten IMG more than any other school (SFA) in the same season Nobody is afraid of those glorified mercenaries Maybe he saw they already had 2 teams who most seasons are better than IMG and said IMG wasn't needed on the schedule And none of this proves they can't beat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Softballguy said: Coach Jones scheduled the team that already proved they were better than IMG (Miami Central) and the team that has beaten IMG more than any other school (SFA) in the same season Nobody is afraid of those glorified mercenaries Maybe he saw they already had 2 teams who most seasons are better than IMG and said IMG wasn't needed on the schedule And none of this proves they can't beat them That was two years ago. And he is afraid. I have the texts to prove it. And SFA hasn't beaten IMG in a few seasons. IMG and C-M will both be Top 5 Preseason teams this season. They should be playing each other to see who in fact is the best team in the state. Unfortunately C-M refuses to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 10 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: That was two years ago. And he is afraid. I have the texts to prove it. And SFA hasn't beaten IMG in a few seasons. IMG and C-M will both be Top 5 Preseason teams this season. They should be playing each other to see who in fact is the best team in the state. Unfortunately C-M refuses to make it happen. Any team or coach afraid of IMG is just soft If I had a team with their resources I wouldn't hesitate to play them every year because I know that I would build a program BETTER than them and would love the opportunity to prove IMG are nothing but glorified mercenaries for Ron desantis and his pro tourism anti school Florida I've seen IMG before and I left the game unimpressed that this was the so called program that teams across the country feared Hell my school is undefeated all time against their so called "national team" with wins in 2 different sports Why any school fears IMG is beyond me because they aren't as good as their reputation makes them out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Softballguy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 15 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: That was two years ago. And he is afraid. I have the texts to prove it. And SFA hasn't beaten IMG in a few seasons. IMG and C-M will both be Top 5 Preseason teams this season. They should be playing each other to see who in fact is the best team in the state. Unfortunately C-M refuses to make it happen. And besides regardless of that fact even if a coach is afraid of a team it doesn't mean they couldn't beat them Some coaches are afraid of teams their program is good enough to beat for some oddball reasons I'll never understand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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