#11 SFA 7 at ESL 13 Final

[Hsfbfan]

13 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Wrong! it’s not CFB and there are meaningful games every week even within state 

Yes but we're talking national football here. And those in state games for the most part means nothing nationally

[GardenStateBaller]

1 minute ago, Hsfbfan said:

Yes but we're talking national football here. And those in state games for the most part means nothing nationally

Thank you. 

[Hsfbfan]

4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Thank you. 

No problem

[Horsefly]

6 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

Yes but we're talking national football here. And those in state games for the most part means nothing nationally

Let’s keep it real, SJB and MD run the national scene.  Regardless of all this back n forth acting as if there’s a competitive national race, no other programs are close to dismantling both in a season. 

and the game that determines that national title every year boils down to instate trinity league MD v SJB. Lol 

As a reference Buford v SFA was not better nor more entertaining than instate LH and Carrollton 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Horsefly

[Texasball]

43 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

OOS teams that Bergen Catholic has scheduled and/or beaten of late:

Mater Dei, IMG, Bishop Gorman, Grayson, St Edward OH, Saguaro, Archbishop Hoban OH, Bentonville AR, John Curtis LA, Cocoa FL, Plant FL, Gilman MD

And BC plays at #6 C-M this Friday night on Flo. Please tune-in! 

Good god some of these are from many years back.  

[Hsfbfan]

I'll pick a matchup this weekend in NJ

Dbp vs sjr it's a big in state rivalry. 

Does if mean anything nationally probably not to most people. Neither team I believe is a top 25 team

[Hsfbfan]

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

Let’s keep it real, SJB and MD run the national scene.  Regardless of all this back n forth acting as if there’s a competitive national race, no other programs are close to dismantling both in a season. Lol

As a reference Buford v SFA was not better nor more entertaining than instate LH and Carrollton 

So yeah the point has now been proven by everyone. There's only 2 schools that really matter. Everyone else is fodder. 

[GardenStateBaller]

Just now, Horsefly said:

Let’s keep it real, SJB and MD run the national scene.  Regardless of all this back n forth acting as if there’s a competitive national race, no other programs are close to dismantling both in a season. Lol

As a reference Buford v SFA was not better nor more entertaining than instate LH and Carrollton 

MD/SJB play each other twice. The ONLY way one of them wins a MNC this season is if a sweep occurs. 

Ratings-wise the SFA/Buford game blew away that GA game. 

[GardenStateBaller]

3 minutes ago, Texasball said:

Good god some of these are from many years back.  

The same exact season that ET beat DLS. Can't have it both ways. 

[Hsfbfan]

3 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Let’s keep it real, SJB and MD run the national scene.  Regardless of all this back n forth acting as if there’s a competitive national race, no other programs are close to dismantling both in a season. 

and the game that determines that national title every year boils down to instate trinity league MD v SJB. Lol 

As a reference Buford v SFA was not better nor more entertaining than instate LH and Carrollton 

And ill make the point about the college football reference. 

Fsu and Miami is a great rivalry but hasn't been nationally relevant in years. 

 

Most college football games are irrelevant just like most hs games are irrelevant nationally 

[Horsefly]

5 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

And ill make the point about the college football reference. 

Fsu and Miami is a great rivalry but hasn't been nationally relevant in years. 

 

Most college football games are irrelevant just like most hs games are irrelevant nationally 

College football is a national system, HS is NOT (hence the ncaa national title race) 

you can look at this site’s lack of activity and prepgriron site as a point of reference to its national interest. High profile instate games will always trump national ones 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Horsefly

[Hsfbfan]

Just now, Horsefly said:

College football is a national system, HS is NOT (hence the ncaa national title race) 

you can look at this site’s activity as a point of reference to its national interest. High profile instate games will always trump national ones 

Idk how anyone can say hs is not a national race when we have national rankings everywhere. Once you rank teams nationally you have a national race. We crown a mythical hs champ every year as the best team based off the national rankings

Yea in terms of attendance most in state games trump national games as the teams in state fans can get to the games 

But again tho most big in state games will not mean much to national rankings 

So either national rankings need to go and put more emphasis on the state scene or the national rankings have to mean something and we have a national race for the championship 

[Texasball]

36 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Lol that’s not recent. That was over a decade ago. 

BC played MD in 2017 got beat 62-14

This game vs C-M is the first time they truly scheduled up since 2017.  All other games oOs were against teams that were just average like themselves!!!  

[Hsfbfan]

Just now, Texasball said:

BC played MD in 2017 got beat 62-14

This game vs C-M is the first time they truly scheduled up since 2017.  All other games oOs were against teams that were just average like themselves!!!  

When did bc play bg in NJ

[Texasball]

1 minute ago, Hsfbfan said:

When did bc play bg in NJ

Before BG got 110% recruited up!!!

Jesus little Gilmer TX hung half hundred on Bishop Gorman in 2004.  
 

BG like MD, SJB would not be winning like they do now without recruiting and poaching kids from other programs!!!

[Hsfbfan]

1 minute ago, Texasball said:

Before BG got 110% recruited up!!!

Jesus little Gilmer TX hung half hundred on Bishop Gorman in 2004.  
 

BG like MD, SJB would not be winning like they do now without recruiting and poaching kids from other programs!!!

Easy for BG to guess become recruited up. They are the only team on the block 

[Horsefly]

38 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

MD/SJB play each other twice. The ONLY way one of them wins a MNC this season is if a sweep occurs. 

Ratings-wise the SFA/Buford game blew away that GA game. 

Comeback when the playoffs start and especially in Texas and let’s see if your national games compares?  lol 

 

[Texasball]

14 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

Easy for BG to guess become recruited up. They are the only team on the block 

Everyone knows they are recruited up and the players are not just coming from Vegas!

[Hsfbfan]

2 minutes ago, Texasball said:

Everyone knows they are recruited up and the players are not just coming from Vegas!

Yea we know. It's all good. I stopped following for the most part few years ago. 

 

[Horsefly]

49 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

Idk how anyone can say hs is not a national race when we have national rankings everywhere. Once you rank teams nationally you have a national race. We crown a mythical hs champ every year as the best team based off the national rankings

Yea in terms of attendance most in state games trump national games as the teams in state fans can get to the games 

But again tho most big in state games will not mean much to national rankings 

So either national rankings need to go and put more emphasis on the state scene or the national rankings have to mean something and we have a national race for the championship 

Rankings and the race to #1 is narrow.  Other than this site, MD and SJB have won it the past several years.  Then that’s it, no playoff system 

college football is a ranking to the college football PLAYOFFS where the actual champion is crowned.

HS does not have that system. CFB falls under the auspices of the ncaa, HS falls under each states oversight where champions are crowned. Not even close to the same  

[Hsfbfan]

4 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Rankings and the race to #1 is narrow.  Other than this site, MD and SJB have won it the past several years.  Then that’s it, no playoff system 

college football is a ranking to the college football PLAYOFFS where the actual champion is crowned.

HS does not have that system. CFB falls under the auspices of the ncaa, HS falls under each states oversight where champions are crowned. Not even close to the same  

So than get rid of national rankings in hs they mean nothing. And we'll have hundreds of championships across America. 

Right and I believe I acknowledge that in posts before that there is only a couple of teams that matter in hs football

[Horsefly]

5 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

So than get rid of national rankings in hs they mean nothing. And we'll have hundreds of championships across America. 

Right and I believe I acknowledge that in posts before that there is only a couple of teams that matter in hs football

Eliminating national rankings wouldn’t matter to me much, but they’ve been around for several decades. I think they’re just for grins n giggles for the most part outside the top 2-3 spots.

bottomline, it’s MD and SJB in reality, but yet you think it’s intriguing on a national level to see who comes out on top.  Lol

if there was an actual playoff, the discrepancy would be obvious. Teams like central, chaminade, BG and Buford aren’t beating those guys when it matters. Anyone actually watching know this. 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Horsefly

[Hsfbfan]

11 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Eliminating national rankings wouldn’t matter to me much, but they’ve been around for several decades. I think they’re just for grins n giggles for the most part outside the top 2-3 spots.

bottomline, it’s MD and SJB in reality, but yet you think it’s intriguing on a national level to see who comes out on top.  Lol

if there was an actual playoff, the discrepancy would be obvious. Teams like central, chaminade, BG and Buford aren’t beating those guys when it matters. Anyone actually watching know this. 

I honestly don't care about national rankings. Never really did. 

[Horsefly]

2 minutes ago, Hsfbfan said:

I honestly don't care about national rankings. Never really did. 

Lol A man that doesn’t care about national rankings being one of the few posting on a national site. You make my argument 

[Hsfbfan]

8 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Lol A man that doesn’t care about national rankings being one of the few posting on a national site. You make my argument 

Its something to do. It's labor day im off from work. Figured this is better than doing nothing.