Whiteshoes Top 100 - September 6

[whiteshoes12]

Some changes due to all the great OOS games last weekend.

1.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (3-0)

2.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (2-0)

3.       Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy (2-0)

4.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (2-0)

5.       Miami (FL) Central (2-0)

6.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (2-1)

7.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (2-0)

8.       Chandler (AZ) (1-0)

9.       Buford (GA) (3-0)

10.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (1-1)

11.   Corona (CA) Centennial (2-1)

12.   Houston (TX) North Shore (2-0)

13.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (2-0)

14.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (2-0)

15.   Washington (DC) St. Johns (1-1)

16.   Duncanville (TX) (2-0)

17.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (3-0)

18.   Austin (TX) Westlake (2-0)

19.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (3-0)

20.   Denton (TX) Guyer (2-0)

21.   Nashville (TN) Lipscomb Academy (3-0)

22.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (3-0)

23.   Miami (FL) Northwestern (2-0)

24.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (2-0)

25.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (2-0)

26.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (1-1)

27.   Katy (TX) (2-0)

28.   East St. Louis (IL) (1-1)

29.   Lakeland (FL) (1-0)

30.   Phenix City (AL) Central (3-0)

31.   Fairburn (GA) Langston Hughes (3-0)

32.   Kahuku (HI) (3-0)

33.   Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro (0-1)

34.   Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (3-0)

35.   Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (3-0)

36.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (1-1)

37.   Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (1-0)

38.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (2-0)

39.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (1-1)

40.   Miami (FL) Columbus (2-0)

41.   Arlington (TX) Martin (2-0)

42.   Kennesaw (GA) North Cobb (1-1)

43.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (2-0)

44.   Baton Rouge (LA) Catholic (0-1)

45.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita (2-0)

46.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge (4-0)

47.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (3-0)

48.   Tampa (FL) Jesuit (2-0)

49.   Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (3-0)

50.   Bixby (OK) (2-0)

51.   Tampa (FL) Tampa Bay Tech (2-0)

52.   Concord (CA) De LaSalle (1-1)

53.   Chesapeake Bay (VA) Oscar Smith (1-0)

54.   Long Beach (CA) Poly (3-0)

55.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (2-0)

56.   Marietta (GA) Walton (1-1)

57.   Humble (TX) Atascocita (1-1)

58.   Warren (MI) De LaSalle Collegiate (2-0)

59.   Zachary (LA) (1-0)

60.   Allen (TX) (1-1)

61.   Madison (MA) Central (2-0)

62.   Belleville (MI) (2-0)

63.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (1-2)

64.   West Chester (OH) Lakota West (3-0)

65.   Mission Viejo (CA) (2-1)

66.   Ellenwood (GA) Cedar Grove (2-0)

67.   Indianapolis (IN) Cathedral (2-1)

68.   DeSoto (TX) (1-1)

69.   Folsom (CA) (2-1)

70.   Venice (FL) (1-1)

71.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (3-1)

72.   Ramsey (NJ) Don Bosco Prep (1-1)

73.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (1-0)

74.   Suwanee (GA) Collins Hill (2-0)

75.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (3-0)

76.   Graham (WA) Grahma-Kapowsin (1-0)

77.   Bryant (AR) (1-0)

78.   Longview (TX) (2-0)

79.   Pensacola (FL) Pine Forest (2-0)

80.   Roebuck (SC) Dorman (3-0)

81.   St. Louis (MO) Christian Brothers (1-1)

82.   Louisville (KY) Ballard (3-0)

83.   Houston (TX) Westfield (2-0)

84.   Martinsburg (WV) (2-0)

85.   Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern (3-0)

86.   Leesburg (GA) Lee County (3-0)

87.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (2-0)

88.   Louisville (KY) St. Xavier (3-0)

89.   Pittsburg (CA) (2-0)

90.   La Puente (CA) Bishop Amat (2-1)

91.   Cornelius (NC) Hough (1-1)

92.   Katy (TX) Thompkins (2-0

93.   Orlando (FL) Jones (1-1)

94.   Nashville (TN) Montgomery Bell Academy (3-0)

95.   Joliet (IL) Catholic (2-0)

96.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (2-1)

97.   Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (3-0)

98.   Portland (OR) Central Catholic (1-0)

99.   Los Alamitos (CA) (1-2)

100. Louisville (KY) Trinity* (2-1)

[PCGridiron]

Not bad but your FLA arrangement needs some work

[Sammy Swordsman]

Pretty good once again.  Personally I would have ESL higher. 

[whiteshoes12]

10 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said:

Pretty good once again.  Personally I would have ESL higher. 

I agree with you.   I was at the St. Francis-East St. Louis game, which ESL should have won.   I also was really impressed with Christian Brothers that weekend and was really surprised how bad ESL beat them.   The only reason I am hesitant to rank them higher, is that in past seasons they have looked so good early only to fade later.   It will be interesting to see how they fare on the road this weekend in Georgia.

[whiteshoes12]

14 hours ago, PCGridiron said:

Not bad but your FLA arrangement needs some work

OK, can you be more specific?

[Columbiafan]

19 hours ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Some changes due to all the great OOS games last weekend.

 

4.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (2-0)

 

STA being in this position isn't terrible but truthfully Central and Chaminade have looked far more convincing in being the top FL team, at this point I would say Central/Chaminade at 1/2, STA at 3 and IMG at 4

 

5.       Miami (FL) Central (2-0)

 

See above 

 

 

7.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (2-0)

 

See above 

 

 

10.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (1-1)

 

Probably would have IMG a few spots lower but not a huge deal 

 

 

13.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (2-0)

 

Maybe a bit high but AHP has started to win me over this season but have tough tests remaining with Chaminade and Cardinal Gibbons on the schedule plus the 2M playoffs 

 

 

23.   Miami (FL) Northwestern (2-0)

 

Definitely too high for the moment and will likely be proven when their schedule steepens up

 

 

25.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (2-0)

 

This is a good spot in a normal year but Gibbons is a bit down this year, we will see where they stand when AHP plays them in a few weeks 

 

 

29.   Lakeland (FL) (1-0)

 

Lakeland has the talent to be this high but their schedule is horrible for a potentially nationally ranked opponent, you can keep them in off talent but any losses I would recommend dropping them out of the top 100

 

 

40.   Miami (FL) Columbus (2-0)

 

This ranking should get tested this week when they play Tampa Jesuit but honestly both may be a little high 

 

 

48.   Tampa (FL) Jesuit (2-0)

 

See above 

 

 

51.   Tampa (FL) Tampa Bay Tech (2-0)

 

Interesting choice, is there something specific about Tampa Bay Tech that you feel justifies them being this high? I have them towards the bottom half of my top 25 in FL

 

 

19 hours ago, whiteshoes12 said:

55.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (2-0)

 

I would have been hesitant of this until this past week, Edgewater seems solid this year and this spot is close to where I would have them 

 

 

70.   Venice (FL) (1-1)

 

Venice seems down this year and I'm not sure they made a smart decision scheduling SFA this season as that will likely be a smashing. They will likely be a team that will need to be dropped within a few weeks

 

 

79.   Pensacola (FL) Pine Forest (2-0)

 

Pine Forest may be good compared to the teams in 3S region 1 but they haven't been tested yet so it may be early to have them ranked nationally

 

 

93.   Orlando (FL) Jones (1-1)

 

This spot isn't too far off but there are other Florida teams I would have ranked higher

 

 

Overall not too bad on the Florida teams but a few I would have done differently

 

Sanford Seminole should be ranked and if they win over Treasure Coast this week (who's a lot better than their record suggests) I would suggest bumping them at least over Venice

 

Other Florida teams I would keep an eye on would be Osceola, Dillard, Rockledge, Buchholz, Trinity Christian, Cocoa, Treasure Coast and Homestead in the coming weeks as potential teams who could play their way into the rankings 

[GardenStateBaller]

4 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

 

Overall not too bad on the Florida teams but a few I would have done differently

 

Sanford Seminole should be ranked and if they win over Treasure Coast this week (who's a lot better than their record suggests) I would suggest bumping them at least over Venice

 

Other Florida teams I would keep an eye on would be Osceola, Dillard, Rockledge, Buchholz, Trinity Christian, Cocoa, Treasure Coast and Homestead in the coming weeks as potential teams who could play their way into the rankings 

Jesuit needs to be lower with the close call to Treasure Coast. 

[whiteshoes12]

39 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

 

Overall not too bad on the Florida teams but a few I would have done differently

 

Sanford Seminole should be ranked and if they win over Treasure Coast this week (who's a lot better than their record suggests) I would suggest bumping them at least over Venice

 

Other Florida teams I would keep an eye on would be Osceola, Dillard, Rockledge, Buchholz, Trinity Christian, Cocoa, Treasure Coast and Homestead in the coming weeks as potential teams who could play their way into the rankings 

Seminole is right there and your point on Venice is correct.   A 12-11 win over Naples is not that impressive.   I guess the game against Northwestern seem to indicate that they could play at that level.   The Naples game tells a different story.   The next two games should be telling as the play Baltimore St. Francis and the aforementioned Seminole.   Should know something at the end of that stretch.    All of the other Florida teams are on my radar.

Edited September 7, 2022 by whiteshoes12

[whiteshoes12]

31 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Jesuit needs to be lower with the close call to Treasure Coast. 

Dropped them from 27 to 48 as a result of that game.    Treasure Coast is an interesting team, had a team last year that put them on my radar, and this year have played two good teams in very competitive games.   They have Sanford Seminole this weekend which should be interesting in gauging several Florida teams.

[Bones]

Good on the Loyola inclusion. However, I don't think even the biggest JCA fan would put this team there. Maybe last year's. 

[GardenStateBaller]

1 hour ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Dropped them from 27 to 48 as a result of that game.    Treasure Coast is an interesting team, had a team last year that put them on my radar, and this year have played two good teams in very competitive games.   They have Sanford Seminole this weekend which should be interesting in gauging several Florida teams.

TCs upset win of AHP last season will always be a regret of mine. We had the oppty to stream it on Flo, but I passed on the oppty. Smh. 

[Columbiafan]

13 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

TCs upset win of AHP last season will always be a regret of mine. We had the oppty to stream it on Flo, but I passed on the oppty. Smh. 

I still think it would be worth reaching out to them as a potential client

 

#OnTheRise

[PCGridiron]

6 hours ago, whiteshoes12 said:

OK, can you be more specific?

1. Despite unpopular opinion IMG is still the best team in Fla. The gap this year is not as large as it was in previous years, but a "healthy" Ascenders squad would be hard to beat.

2. Aquinas is not #2 in Fla by a long shot.

3. American Heritage may be better than MC and C-M right now, but they will get a chance to show it.

4. Lakeland may be #2 in Fla by seasons end, but once again they will get a chance to show it.

5. Venice/Jones are living on last year's reputation. Neither team is Top 10 in Fla.

6. Jesuit was thought to be as good as last year but that may be premature. We will know more this week against a very good Miami Columbus team on the road. For many reasons it's tough for teams from other parts of the state traveling to SFla.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2022 by PCGridiron

[whiteshoes12]

10 minutes ago, PCGridiron said:

1. Despite unpopular opinion IMG is still the best team in Fla. The gap this year is not as large as it was in previous years, but a "healthy" Ascenders squad would be hard to beat.

2. Aquinas is not #2 in Fla by a long shot.

3. American Heritage may be better than MC and C-M right now, but they will get a chance to show it.

4. Lakeland may be #2 in Fla by seasons end, but once again they will get a chance to show it.

5. Venice/Jones are living on last year's reputation. Neither team is Top 10 in Fla.

6. Jesuit was thought to be as good as last year but that may be premature. We will know more this week against a very good Miami Columbus team on the road. For many reasons it's tough for teams from other parts of the state traveling to SFla.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, that gives me some insight into Florida.   Agree with you on American Heritage and Jesuit has not fired yet this year, so will be interesting to see if they can kick it up a notch.   Aquinas is so difficult with all the great players they have yet each year they seem to fall short of promise.    Venice played Northwestern well but concerns over the Naples win are there.    The Duncanville-Jones game is hard to measure due to the injuries suffered by two key Jones players.   I am not an IMG hater but the Mami Central was an eye opener for both teams.   The thing about these polls are they change each week and hopefully by the end of the year we will have a better measure of each team.   Again, any insight you can provide me will be considered.   I am not a computer, relying strictly on my eyes and help from other posters.

[Columbiafan]

12 minutes ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Thanks, that gives me some insight into Florida.   Agree with you on American Heritage and Jesuit has not fired yet this year, so will be interesting to see if they can kick it up a notch.   Aquinas is so difficult with all the great players they have yet each year they seem to fall short of promise.    Venice played Northwestern well but concerns over the Naples win are there.    The Duncanville-Jones game is hard to measure due to the injuries suffered by two key Jones players.   I am not an IMG hater but the Mami Central was an eye opener for both teams.   The thing about these polls are they change each week and hopefully by the end of the year we will have a better measure of each team.   Again, any insight you can provide me will be considered.   I am not a computer, relying strictly on my eyes and help from other posters.

Miami Central did beat IMG head to head 

 

And people can make all the excuses about the injury but it's one player on a team with over 50 FBS kids and supposed to be the best training and coaching in the country 

 

One player shouldn't cause them to lose to a public school and regardless of IMG talent they won't finish with a top 50 win without beating SFA so to say they should be #1 in Florida is a statement that is made with no foundation or base and is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks 

[GardenStateBaller]

21 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

Miami Central did beat IMG head to head 

 

And people can make all the excuses about the injury but it's one player on a team with over 50 FBS kids and supposed to be the best training and coaching in the country 

 

One player shouldn't cause them to lose to a public school and regardless of IMG talent they won't finish with a top 50 win without beating SFA so to say they should be #1 in Florida is a statement that is made with no foundation or base and is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks 

IMG at SFA on 11/18 on Flo!!

[Columbiafan]

3 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

IMG at SFA on 11/18 on Flo!!

Yup and SFA will show that IMG losing to Central was no fluke

[PCGridiron]

47 minutes ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Thanks, that gives me some insight into Florida.   Agree with you on American Heritage and Jesuit has not fired yet this year, so will be interesting to see if they can kick it up a notch.   Aquinas is so difficult with all the great players they have yet each year they seem to fall short of promise.    Venice played Northwestern well but concerns over the Naples win are there.    The Duncanville-Jones game is hard to measure due to the injuries suffered by two key Jones players.   I am not an IMG hater but the Mami Central was an eye opener for both teams.   The thing about these polls are they change each week and hopefully by the end of the year we will have a better measure of each team.   Again, any insight you can provide me will be considered.   I am not a computer, relying strictly on my eyes and help from other posters.

I agree with a lot of what you say and I can promise you one thing I will not pretend to be something I'm not; you can easily find a fraud without even looking. However I do have a resume' of playing, coaching, scouting at the HS and Collegiate level.

The problem with social media and many boards across the country are the so-called experts who couldn't make their high school JV team but somehow became a genius at running or evaluating a program.

This is one big reason that when I give you a ranking or opinion of teams I consider "coaching" as a huge x-factor.👈