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Omaha Vol Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 MD should be #1. Can’t see Alcoa being top 75. Maybe top 175? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kurkjian Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 21 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: MD should be #1. Can’t see Alcoa being top 75. Maybe top 175? Alcoa making it caught my eye too. I agree. I doubt Alcoa has been as good as their ranking there. That said, it is cool to see them recognized for their consistency as a less-than-huge public program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Adam Kurkjian said: Alcoa making it caught my eye too. I agree. I doubt Alcoa has been as good as their ranking there. That said, it is cool to see them recognized for their consistency as a less-than-huge public program. Oakland, Maryville and Alcoa are perfect examples that Jeff's algorithm is far from perfection. He's always had TN weighted way too high. From what he's told me, he's adjusted accordingly going fwd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Oakland, Maryville and Alcoa are perfect examples that Jeff's algorithm is far from perfection. He's always had TN weighted way too high. From what he's told me, he's adjusted accordingly going fwd. Oakland should definitely be in the top 75. Maryville/Alcoa top 150ish. (***Oakland still loses points for chickening out against Liberty, though. Lol***). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 12:18 PM, GardenStateBaller said: Servite should be in the Top 50. They get unfairly penalized every year for 2-3 automatic losses to SJB and The Stache. Servite would win the majority of games vs Ryan, Marysville, and Pick Central during this time span. Servite was pretty good in 2013 and 2014 with Travis Waller at QB. Much better than they got credit for. Alot of these programs have been exposed recently when they played OOS. Example, Servite played SJB closer in 2019, 2020 and 2021 than every OOS power that SJB played during those years, yet Servite got ranked lower in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Teams with HUGE question marks that have not earned their spots in the ranking. Alot of these teams didn't beat Anyone of note. In some cases not even a Top 100 win in the years they were ranked in the Top 100 Dutch Fork Thompson Hoover Hoban Oakland Center Grove Catholic BR SJR SJP Ryan Marysville Pick Central Bryant Trinity* Highland Park Guyer Chambers Karr Alcoa Cathedral Bixby Buford Male Jenks Aledo Massilon Trinity Christian Warner Robbins Cocoa Central (Phenix City) Collins Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Teams with HUGE question marks that have not earned their spots in the ranking. Alot of these teams didn't beat Anyone of note. In some cases not even a Top 100 win in the years they were ranked in the Top 100 Dutch Fork- lost a close game to a vgood Allen TX. Thompson- agree. No significant OOS games ever. Hoover- Scheduled and got drilled by IMG 3x. They deserve that credit. Hoban- Running-clocked by BC. Oakland- agree. Center Grove- agree. Catholic BR- hammered GC SJR- OOS wins vs JSerra, Serra, DeMatha, DFB, and ED when they finished #2 in USA. SJP- on same level with top BNU teams. Ryan- agree. Marysville- agree. Pick Central-agree Bryant-agree. Trinity*- agree* Highland Park- agree Guyer-agree Chambers- agree Karr-agree Alcoa-agree Cathedral- beat LaSalle OH as bad as IMG did. Legit. Bixby-agree Buford- lost to DFB, C-M. Pussed out vs SJP this season. I'm ok with them. Male- agree Jenks- agree Aledo- agree Massilon- agree Trinity Christian- agree Warner Robbins- seen them in person twice. They're deserving if Buford is. Cocoa- great OOS road warrior team back in the day. Approved. Central (Phenix City)- agree Collins Hill- agree. Loss to Kapowsin WA was a laugher last season Feedback above @Sammy Swordsman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Teams with HUGE question marks that have not earned their spots in the ranking. Alot of these teams didn't beat Anyone of note. In some cases not even a Top 100 win in the years they were ranked in the Top 100 Dutch Fork Thompson Hoover Hoban Oakland Center Grove Catholic BR SJR SJP Ryan Marysville Pick Central Bryant Trinity* Highland Park Guyer Chambers Karr Alcoa Cathedral Bixby Buford Male Jenks Aledo Massilon Trinity Christian Warner Robbins Cocoa Central (Phenix City) Collins Hill I’m either high as a kite or you’ve gone soft. No Folsom on here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: I’m either high as a kite or you’ve gone soft. No Folsom on here? LOL. To their credit they have been scheduling DLS alot of the years during this span and beat them. Which is more than the teams I singed out. My only beef with them was scheduling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said: LOL. To their credit they have been scheduling DLS alot of the years during this span and beat them. Which is more than the teams I singed out. My only beef with them was scheduling. Realistically, only 20-25 teams make national power schedules. The rest will, usually, schedule tough in-state games. That’s what most of your top 100 teams do. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bodysurf Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 11:56 PM, SeaShells21 said: Thing 2 had been relevant longer and deserves the number 1 spot. Really? Bosco was a laughing stock before Negro. MD has been winning championships since the 1950s. I think that qualifies as ‘relevant longer’. Even before the years you are considering, MD played for the championship in 2012, 2013 and 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bodysurf said: Really? Bosco was a laughing stock before Negro. MD has been winning championships since the 1950s. I think that qualifies as ‘relevant longer’. Even before the years you are considering, MD played for the championship in 2012, 2013 and 2016. Facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sammy Swordsman Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 4:44 PM, Omaha Vol said: Realistically, only 20-25 teams make national power schedules. The rest will, usually, schedule tough in-state games. That’s what most of your top 100 teams do. It is what it is. A loaded team that is ranked should seek/play a schedule that includes at least 2 non league opponents = > them, plus be in a league with at least 2 teams with comparable skill level. Absent this, a team would not achieve the vetting necessary to have their name in lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Omaha Vol Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 9:10 AM, Sammy Swordsman said: A loaded team that is ranked should seek/play a schedule that includes at least 2 non league opponents = > them, plus be in a league with at least 2 teams with comparable skill level. Absent this, a team would not achieve the vetting necessary to have their name in lights. I appreciate that train of thought, but it’s not the ONLY reason to justify a high ranking. Teams can be good enough, regardless of their schedules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Omaha Vol said: I appreciate that train of thought, but it’s not the ONLY reason to justify a high ranking. Teams can be good enough, regardless of their schedules. Correct but the question is "how good"? Unless they are vetted a team does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. The Mendoza handicap will expose a few of the teams you want to rank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Correct but the question is "how good"? Unless they are vetted a team does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. The Mendoza handicap will expose a few of the teams you want to rank I’m sure their will be a few teams in my poll that might not deserve it. After all, it’s just one man’s opinion….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: I’m sure their will be a few teams in my poll that might not deserve it. After all, it’s just one man’s opinion….. Most everyone respects your poll so we are counting on your "A" gamel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Most everyone respects your poll so we are counting on your "A" gamel I’m getting old. So, I’m not as sharp as I used to be. I’ll try and keep up with your tiers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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