misterfootball Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Edited December 18, 2023 by misterfootball updated title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterfootball Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 Texas teams in the Top 5 and 9 in the Top 25 is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, misterfootball said: 3 Texas teams in the Top 5 and 9 in the Top 25 is crazy. Massey in broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The state of Texas loves Massey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: The state of Texas loves Massey. Just like the state of California loves CP! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterfootball Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: The state of Texas loves Massey. I was really surprised that Ken Massey didn't keep Mater Dei #1. Even after the 28-0 loss he kept them #1. Then, when they beat St. John Bosco in the CIF Championship, he looked like a genius. So I thought for sure that they were going to remain #1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, misterfootball said: I was really surprised that Ken Massey didn't keep Mater Dei #1. Even after the 28-0 loss he kept them #1. Then, when they beat St. John Bosco in the CIF Championship, he looked like a genius. So I thought for sure that they were going to remain #1. When there's no rhyme or reason for these types of major shifts, credibility and authenticity must be questioned. Hence, why the criteria of our rankings is publicly published for all to see 24/7/365: 1. Team must be undefeated 2. Team must have strong SOS 3. Team must have at least one, elite, OOS victory By reading the aforementioned, everyone knows why C-M, MD and DS could NEVER be our MNC this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acheaja8 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 For Massey, it's how his algorithm weights the Offensive Power to Score that pulled MD down and raised De Soto and Duncaville. The TX bias is primarily that variable and the numberer of games TX teams play in a season. Massey does not provide the "weight" to SoS that other Selectors do. Massey's HS ranking algorigm skews the math towards the variable of offensive scoring figuring that over time it is a better predictive determinate of HS football winning results. Given the total points and number of games the two TX teams played (and others 5 TX teams in his top 20), you can see the trend at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, acheaja8 said: For Massey, it's how his algorithm weights the Offensive Power to Score that pulled MD down and raised De Soto and Duncaville. The TX bias is primarily that variable and the numberer of games TX teams play in a season. Massey does not provide the "weight" to SoS that other Selectors do. Massey's HS ranking algorigm skews the math towards the variable of offensive scoring figuring that over time it is a better predictive determinate of HS football winning results. Given the total points and number of games the two TX teams played (and others 5 TX teams in his top 20), you can see the trend at the end. It's a broken system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acheaja8 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 No argument there! Especially for the HS teams that truly can and want to be in the MNC debate. I hope the trend will continue for the top 25-50 perennial HS national teams to play more OOS matchups. That will help, statistically, a bit over time. Shoot, my kid is at one of those top programs in the debate and the national respect does matter there too! But, for right now, more Selectors (9) are better for the standard deviation.....so to speak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 21 hours ago, misterfootball said: @MassillonAgainstTheWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 For the rest of time anytime anyone gives me shit about our poll I’m going to reference this one to shut them up 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Even @andythehistorian agrees with us: “Massey is to Texas what calpreps is to California. He's got 5 Texas teams in the top 10. 6 in the top 15. 7 in the top 18. 9 in the top 23. 10 in the top 26. One of those top 10 teams is Aledo. It's a joke.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 20 hours ago, acheaja8 said: For Massey, it's how his algorithm weights the Offensive Power to Score that pulled MD down and raised De Soto and Duncaville. The TX bias is primarily that variable and the numberer of games TX teams play in a season. Massey does not provide the "weight" to SoS that other Selectors do. Massey's HS ranking algorigm skews the math towards the variable of offensive scoring figuring that over time it is a better predictive determinate of HS football winning results. Given the total points and number of games the two TX teams played (and others 5 TX teams in his top 20), you can see the trend at the end. So much for defense wins championships! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Bodysurf said: So much for defense wins championships! Any poll that incentivizes teams to run-up scores in order to rise in their rankings is suspect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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