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4 hours ago, Horsefly said:

One of the turnovers didn’t lead to a score (they missed a FG) . The other TO was as impactful as the personal fouls against DS on DV first drive after they held them on downs that extended the drive and led to a FG. 

A turnover is always impactful because it removes a possession. 

18 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

 

Those 3 big plays he mentioned were the difference in the game(2 turnovers and the fake punt. ) He also mentioned Duncanville can't pass,  so by getting them down and in passing situations he altered their offense. Like I said in a different thread. 

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

I’m not emphasizing he only had 3 carries in the 2d, but that it ONLY yielded 4 yards! What caused that?  

I'd have to watch those plays again 

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

The stats still don’t lie. Durham still only had 3 Carrie’s for 4 yards in the 2d half. Mathis took the opportunity on the fake punt and it paid off. (Of course he wanted to go up 21 points)DS made them one dimensional going up big.   And somehow you think that’s a fluke outcome? 

Whose saying otherwise?

That play took the run away in the 4th. You can't keep running the ball down 21. 

It wasn't the Desoto defense,  it was that play. 

4 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

They did several times in the red zone. If they didn’t stop them then why did Durham only have 3 carries in the 2d half for 4 yards? What stopped him? Hell, that’s not even getting past the LOS on avg. 

We went over that.  They went down 21 after the fake punt and started passing. 19 of their 42 passes came after that Fake punt TD. That's 45 percent of their pass plays for the game. 

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

The fake punt didn’t lose the game.  Smh

It made a huge difference. 

Duncanville would've gotten the ball back down 14. Guess what happened when they got the ball back after the fake punt TD? 

Huge run TD

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

The secondary getting torched right out the gate did. Having sloppy STs did.  Those weren’t flukes. DS scored 14 points and only ran 1 offensive play.  And it was the same kid, and their best athlete. Why the hell kick it to him to begin with? Because DV didn’t focus on details like that. 

Nobody is saying Desoto was getting stopped, but they weren't stopping anyone either. 

8 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Once again, DS won last night with a 3d and 4th string RBs…DECISIVELY!  That’s a glaring fact that can’t be overlooked when we talk hypothetical rematches. 

A HB is irrelevant when you're getting a push

8 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Mathis ran for it b/c DV wasn’t looking for it.  the opportunity was there and they took it. Easy conversion.

He went for it cause he knows he had nothing to lose.  He doesn't get it and an extra 25 yards isn't going to help his defense. On the other hand, a conversion gives him an opportunity to go up 21 and seal the game. 

8 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

DV offense wasn’t some great threat last night scoring at will. 
 
If DV OL was so dominant why didn’t they just give it to Durham and him go off for 250-300 yards like last year? 

Because offensive coaches get to cute. That's what i would've done. 

13 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

They’ve been having penalty issues all year long.

But you wanna know why those happened? They weren’t use to trailing in the 3d by 14. the pressure got to them. 

Durham didn’t go off like they thought so they panicked like they did in ‘21 v NS in the title game when NS took the lead 17-10. 

Durham wasn't the reason they lost.  

Two reasons I highlighted. 

The fake punt putting the game out of reach and turnovers

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Well they dominated both lines, easily.  Durham ran for a ridiculous 309 yards last year.  Yesterday in the 2d half he had 3 carries for 4 yards. (His total yards from last year were cut in half.)

You can't run down 21 in the 4th. The fake punt forced Duncanville to pass. Mathis wasn't dumb.  He knew his defense wasn't going to stop Duncanville, so he had to keep scoring. 

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

DS made great strides improving their OL/DLs.  
 

OL

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

their OL bullied DV, Bailey had lots of time to complete passes and the run game was just as effective. The main reason the O put up 42 pts. 
 

He scrambled pretty well and bought time.  

2 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

if Riden played they would have controlled the clock n ran it down DV throat, limiting DVs possessions.  It would have been a 38-24 type game 

No it wouldn't have been. If these two played again,  you'd get a high scoring running affair with either team winning. Turnovers and a couple of big plays would decide the game like last night. 

15 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

 

Neither team scored in the 3d. If DV was doing all the bullying they would have ran it down their throats in the 3d already trailing by 14 

They were driving in the 3rd and then they had those back to back to back false starts on 4th and 2. That drive killed more than half of the quarter.

7 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

 

Neither team scored in the 3d. If DV was doing all the bullying they would have ran it down their throats in the 3d already trailing by 14 

Everyone knows the RB is their bread n butter. 
 

i watched both games from this year n last.  What’s the main difference from last year? 

They stopped Desoto's offense last year

6 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Desoto didn’t get whipped up front.  Hell, they held DV to 28 with about 3 min left.  By that time it was a 21 point lead. They gave up 2 long TD runs to Durham, outside of that they held them consistently and in the red zone. 

They did get whipped. They gave up 450 yards of offense.  The difference is the turnovers and the special team plays

6 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

that’s why DV passed more than usual b/c they weren’t moving it consistently on the ground. Russell attempted 42 passes yesterday.  Way out of character for them. 

They went down 21 that's why. Most of their passes came in the 4th quarter(19 of their 42)

They threw the ball 23 times prior to the fake punt TD. 19 afterwards

4 minutes ago, Steeler01 said:

Upfront they got whipped on defense.

As did Desoto. Neither team was imposing their will and showing they were truly better.  

DV fumbles stopped them in the 3rd. In the 4th quarter, down 21 after the fake punt they went away from running the ball.  

These two play again,  and the score can go either way. Turnovers and Kerry big plays would determine it. Neither team proved they were truly better last night

Desoto won by 14

They needed a 2-0 turnover margin

A last second miracle TD before halftime

A KO return

A fake punt conversion. 

This shit should've been a 28 point win.  You think all of that happens again?

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

With both teams fully healthy I’m not sure the results wouldn’t be the same. DV use to be able to bully DS upfront, they can’t anymore on either side. (I thought DV would have the adv on the OL but even that wasn’t won consistently) 

Duncanville did bully that Desoto defense. They didn't score in the 3rd dur to 2 fumbles by their WRs

3 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

👇🏿. This you? Yes, DV got whipped. Thats the issue last night. 
 

 

Upfront they got whipped on defense.

As did Desoto. Neither team was imposing their will and showing they were truly better.  

DV fumbles stopped them in the 3rd. In the 4th quarter, down 21 after the fake punt they went away from running the ball.  

These two play again,  and the score can go either way. Turnovers and Kerry big plays would determine it. Neither team proved they were truly better last night

6 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

DV secondary couldn’t stop their pass game either. The issue for DV was they lost in the trenches on both sides.  Doesn’t matter how many times you play, if you can’t win up front it lessens your chances 

The issue for DV was turnovers and DS made big plays.

Two big plays that you're forgetting about. 

A fake punt up 14. They convert and go up 21

The TD before halftime after terrible game management. They don't get the TD it's halftime with 7 less offensive points.  

Let's not act like DS was this dominant team last night.

Neither team stopped the other straight up. 

20 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Desoto was bigger, stronger and faster and played with more energy. It’s that simple. DV will refocus (get Simmons back fully healthy) and get ready to eventually meet north shore. They’ll be fine 

Desoto played a cleaner game. 

A TD before halftime on the last play if i recall correctly.  

A ton of fumbles by Duncanville.

These teams play 10x and I think it goes 6-4 Ville's way.  Neither team can stop the other's running game without a turnover

On 10/11/2023 at 8:11 PM, Texasball said:

Why would I create another bogus poll?
 

if I h@d poll there would be 2 TX in top 10 this year and one would not be DS.

 

This aged well 

19 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

 

I guess Desoto should've played MD/SJB/ Central etc....

2 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

You are acting as if Duncanville lost to a no-name Texas team. 
DeSoto is #3 in Texas according to Dave Campbells 😐

They got whipped and did nothing outside of what they've always done.  Run the ball and throw some simple pass routes

Texasball overrated Duncanville

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

4/mile

Incomplete pass

It's over in DeSoto

49-35 

When is the last time Duncanville has given up 49 points?

Don't want to look it up

4 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

They are okay, but they’re window is closing.

That depends on when Samples leaves.  He's the one that gets the talent to come to Duncanville

Just now, SeaShells21 said:

Of course they’re not that good. They were destroyed by IMG and Mater Dei.

They're very good, but they're not at that level.  Their depth along the LOS and their schemes leave a lot to be desired. 

Smart move to go for the fake.  You can't depend on your defense to keep getting turnovers