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    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

    in National High School Football Forum

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    1 minute ago, Testadura said:

    Just to get a sense, pros whose rookie year was 1990 to the present:

    Q Nelson, minkah, Flacco, d mccourty, tamba, Olsen, n O’Donnell, Jenkins, Keith sims, Shaun O’Hara, m Wilkerson, miles Austin, Mike Adams, proehl, chrebet, Logan Ryan, k McKenzie, szott, j Bellamy, b McKinnie, Shaun Phillips, Cushing, d Dawkins, Ron dayne, d Moore, h reddick, j miller, j mccourty, Kenny Britt, a fassano, g brackett, t whitehead, m sanu, a Collins 

    these are the top-ranked NJ NFLers of all time whose rookie season was 1990 or after.  I stopped above at NJ’s 100th.  Many unnamed played earlier   

    ryan grant is 157.  Highest Bosco guy.

    212 k Williams
    220 Jim Finn 
    238 Jabrill

    265 Gary

    285 Danan Hughes

    286 lance ball Teaneck 

    297 Dray

    313 AQM

    318 junior galette 

    323 Murray.   A kicker and a good one

    335 ciurciu

    423 Blake Costanzo 

    452 Wooten

    473 McEvoy

    477 Carroo

    494 Eric Lane

    507 Scanlon

    518 Hennesey

    519 Sweeney

    539 T Hennessy 

    542 Simms

    543 longa 

    553 Giles-harris

     573 trattou 

    609 Beatty 

    625 h Dubois 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Anyone looking to get into college and excel there wasn’t wedded to Bosco, let me assure you.  There have been, are, and always will be better or equal high schools to go to try to get into college and excel.  

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

    in National High School Football Forum

    Posted

    Just to get a sense, pros whose rookie year was 1990 to the present:

    Q Nelson, minkah, Flacco, d mccourty, tamba, Olsen, n O’Donnell, Jenkins, Keith sims, Shaun O’Hara, m Wilkerson, miles Austin, Mike Adams, proehl, chrebet, Logan Ryan, k McKenzie, szott, j Bellamy, b McKinnie, Shaun Phillips, Cushing, d Dawkins, Ron dayne, d Moore, h reddick, j miller, j mccourty, Kenny Britt, a fassano, g brackett, t whitehead, m sanu, a Collins 

    these are the top-ranked NJ NFLers of all time whose rookie season was 1990 or after.  I stopped above at NJ’s 100th.  Many unnamed played earlier   

    ryan grant is 157.  Highest Bosco guy.

    212 k Williams
    220 Jim Finn 
    238 Jabrill

    265 Gary

    285 Danan Hughes

    286 lance ball Teaneck 

    297 Dray

    313 AQM

    318 junior galette 

    323 Murray.   A kicker and a good one

    335 ciurciu

    423 Blake Costanzo 

    452 Wooten

    473 McEvoy

    477 Carroo

    494 Eric Lane

    507 Scanlon

    518 Hennesey

    519 Sweeney

    539 T Hennessy 

    542 Simms

    543 longa 

    553 Giles-harris

     573 trattou 

    609 Beatty 

    625 h Dubois 

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

    in National High School Football Forum

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    18 minutes ago, Testadura said:

    It never did.  NJ put kids in college from all schools.  

    You’re mixing up a ton of things.  AAs have nothing to do with going to the NFL or excelling at college.  

    The whole state knew you didn’t have to go to Toal to make the NFL.  Bosco never had a great track record for the pros.   Give me names   Give me college stars   

    k Williams.  McCourtneys.  That Rutgers LB.  Joes had more excelling at college and pros   

    Teaneck put kids into the NFL.  BC too

    Bayonne HS probably put almost as many in the pros with more noteworthy careers.  Dimler, Hughes, Lord, Britt.  Beler started at SS and OLB for Nebraska against FSU in 2 bowl games.  

    54 NFL players born in NJ.  Imperfect stat but close enough.  

    AQM.  Only turned to Bosco because Paterson Catholic closed.  

    Sweeney.  Hennessys.  1 is a long snapper.  Undrafted.  Other was 3rd rounder.  NFL starter.  Peppers.  

    gary, dwumfour, k Williams, mincah   

    players, as always, are from all over.  Mostly ho-hum HSs.  NJ probably had more NFL studs before Bosco’s rise to prominence 

    Teel, Toal, Grant, Garvin, tratou, Wooten, Nova, Carroo, shumate, mad water, Tony Jones, Bryan Murphy, Steele.  No college AAs, right?  See when or if they were drafted.  Sweeney was all-ACC.  99 career catches.  7th rounder.  18 career receptions.  Grant undrafted.  

    I’m not seeing it

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

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    45 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

    By him being uber successful after transferring from DBP to PC, it showed all future ballers that it it didn't really matter where you chose to attend high school. For a decade prior to that, DBP had a corner on the market for every baller looking to excel at the college level. No other HSFB program nationally since DBP has housed five (5) All-Americans on the same roster. 

    It never did.  NJ put kids in college from all schools.  

    You’re mixing up a ton of things.  AAs have nothing to do with going to the NFL or excelling at college.  

    The whole state knew you didn’t have to go to Toal to make the NFL.  Bosco never had a great track record for the pros.   Give me names   Give me college stars   

    k Williams.  McCourtneys.  That Rutgers LB.  Joes had more excelling at college and pros   

    Teaneck put kids into the NFL.  BC too

    Bayonne HS probably put almost as many in the pros with more noteworthy careers.  Dimler, Hughes, Lord, Britt.  Beler started at SS and OLB for Nebraska against FSU in 2 bowl games.  

    #12 Duncanville 35 at #13 DeSoto 49 Final

    in National High School Football Forum

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    35 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

    LOL Dotson is a 3* SMU commit who didn't get his name called once today. There are three other players ranked higher than him on the DV roster. Colin Simmons is the 5* All-World DE for DV. Maybe you got mixed-up with him. 

    No.  He has 30 offers.  8 from top-25 colleges.  Ranked 454.  247 3*.  ESPN 4*

    simmons as I said is a 5*.  Ranked 1 in Tx.  

    you didn’t watch the game.  In the 2024 class, Dville has only 3 guys on D ranked 500 nationally.  January.  

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

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    7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

    DBP has three MNCs (09, 11, 12).

    Jabrill transfering from DBP is the correct answer. 

    He transferred 11 years ago, and due that single action, NJ football is becoming or is irrelevant?

    did big transfers occur before?  After?   Still?   More?   Less?  In other states?   How long has IMG been poaching?

    nothing else of note happened?   He unleashed irreversible decline?   No one could adapt or benefit or mitigate?

    like a meteor hitting the planet, causing calamitous consequences put in motion with nothing to stand in their way, and so, life just died?  🙂 

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

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    14 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

    MC beating DBP in 2013 was way worse. Remember, DBP won a share of the Natty the season prior. BC never never been a MNC contender. 

    It was 2 years before but that wasn’t my point.  Our teams lost because they weren’t tip top.  Losing is what happens when you’re worse than the other team.  

    im asking how did our teams go downhill.  

    Losing is just the outcome of becoming worse.  Why did we get so bad?

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

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    Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

    Top ballers started going to others schools other than DBP, which caused to parity we see today. From 2000-2011 every top player creaved to be at DBP. No NJ team has that dominant allurement anymore. 

    Every year in 2001-11, there was at least 1 other solid NJ team in the top 100.  And Bosco throttled them except for a year or 2.  How does Joes blow a top-5 finish?

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

    in National High School Football Forum

    Posted

    But more important, that dog Bosco team later beat Joes at Joes by 7.  

    joes was ranked 5 or 6.  Beating Bosco and winning states would have made them top 5, and they lose to Bosco.  

    that’s why I asked about NJ going downhill, not Bosco.  

    a top-5 Bosco team never loses to a Joes team, ever.  The whole state has been shitting itself since 2011   

    So, after MC, we went on to beat the #5 or 6 team in the country.  

    how did NJ decline?

    Who and what reduced NJ football to national irrelevance?

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    12 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said:

    MC blowing out DBP in 2013 helped add to the NJ downfall.

    I agree.  But that I see as bad optics outside NJ.  To anyone in NJ who knew football, we had 7 starters out, and lost 3 more during the game.  We were not a good team.  Our DE that game weighed 195, was a 2nd-string LB and a 3rd-string DE, and was really a LAX player.   Even healthy, though, we lose by 15-20, instead of 50-21   

    The game was sort of competitive for almost 3 quarters.  we lead most of the 1st half and were within 2 scores with 5 minutes to go in q3.  

    I’d take that Bosco team and lay 14 points over ANY NJ team this year.  This year’s Bergen team would be blown out in 1 quarter by that MC team.  

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