Whiteshoes Top 100 - November 28

[whiteshoes12]

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (11-0)

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (12-1)

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (9-0)

4.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (12-0)

5.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2)

6.       Galena Park (TX) North Shore (12-0)

7.       Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (11-1)

8.       DeSoto (TX) (12-0)

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (12-1)

10.   Austin (TX) Westlake (13-0)

11.   Duncanville (TX) (11-1)

12.   Marietta (GA) Walton (13-0)

13.   Corona (CA) Centennial (9-3)

14.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (11-1)    

15.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (12-0)

16.   Massillon (OH) Washington (15-0)   

17.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty (11-1)

18.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (14-1)

19.   Miami (FL) Norland (13-0)

20.   Saraland (AL) (13-0)

21.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (12-1)

22.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (13-1)

23.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (10-1)  

24.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (14-0)

25.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic (14-0)

26.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon (11-1)

27.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial (11-1)

28.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (12-1)

29.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (12-0)

30.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (10-1)

31.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson (13-0)

32.   Buford (GA) (11-2)  

33.   Bixby (OK) (12-0)

34.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (13-0)

35.   Aledo (TX) (13-0)

36.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (11-1)

37.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (13-1)

38.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (9-2)

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (12-1)

40.   Phenix City (AL) Central (12-0)

41.   Gainesville (GA) (12-1)  

42.   Florence (SC) South Florence (14-0)

43.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom (12-0)

44.   Yelm (WA) (13-0)

45.   Belleville (MI) (13-1)

46.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (13-1)

47.   Miami (FL) Columbus (11-2)

48.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (13-0)

49.   Cocoa (FL) (12-1)

50.   Harrisburg (PA) Bishop McDevitt (13-0)

51.   Norfolk (VA) Maury (13-0)

52.   Carrollton (GA) (11-2)

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis (13-1)

54.   Concord (CA) De La Salle (10-2)

55.   Miami (FL) Central (7-4)

56.   Portland (OR) Central Catholic (13-0)

57.   El Cajon (CA) Granite Hills (12-0)

58.   Wexford (PA) North Allegheny (12-1)

59.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (10-2)

60.   Milton (GA) (11-2)

61.   Miami (FL) Booker T. Washington (8-3)

62.   West Linn (OR) (11-1)

63.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (11-2)

64.   Louisville (MS) (14-0)

65.   Little Rock (AR) Parkview (13-0)

66.   Liberty (MO) North (12-1) 

67.   Southfield (MI) Arts and Tech (13-1)

68.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (11-2)

69.   Kahuku (HI) (10-2)

70.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More (12-0)

71.   Avon (OH) (13-1)

72.   Folsom (CA) (11-2)

73.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (11-2)

74.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln (11-1)

75.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge (11-3)

76.   Frankfort (IL) Lincoln-Way East (13-1)

77.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day (12-1)

78.   Carlsbad (CA) (10-1)

79.   Cibolo (TX) Steele (12-1)

80.   American Fork (UT) (11-2)

81.   Brownsburg (IN) (9-1)

82.   Katy (TX) (10-2)

83.   Midwest City (OK) Carl Albert (13-0)

84.   Chattanooga (TN) McAllie (11-1)

85.   Ruston (LA) (11-1)

86.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (10-2)

87.   Littleton (CO) Columbine (13-0)

88.   Hattiesburg (MS) Oak Grove (12-1)

89.   Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (10-2)

90.   Omaha (NE) Westside (13-0)

91.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee (13-1)

92.   Martinsburg (WV) (12-0)

93.   Mililani (HI) (10-2)

94.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (11-1)

95.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis (4-6)

96.   Graham-Kapowsin (WA) (13-0)

97.   Fresno (CA) Clovis North (13-0)

98.   Matthews (NC) Weddington (12-2)

99.   Dripping Springs (TX) (10-2)

100.  Fayetteville (AR) (12-0)

[Testadura]

5 hours ago, whiteshoes12 said:

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (11-0)

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (12-1)

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (9-0)

4.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (12-0)

5.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2)

6.       Galena Park (TX) North Shore (12-0)

7.       Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (11-1)

8.       DeSoto (TX) (12-0)

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (12-1)

10.   Austin (TX) Westlake (13-0)

11.   Duncanville (TX) (11-1)

12.   Marietta (GA) Walton (13-0)

13.   Corona (CA) Centennial (9-3)

14.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (11-1)    

15.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (12-0)

16.   Massillon (OH) Washington (15-0)   

17.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty (11-1)

18.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (14-1)

19.   Miami (FL) Norland (13-0)

20.   Saraland (AL) (13-0)

21.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (12-1)

22.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (13-1)

23.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (10-1)  

24.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (14-0)

25.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic (14-0)

26.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon (11-1)

27.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial (11-1)

28.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (12-1)

29.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (12-0)

30.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (10-1)

31.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson (13-0)

32.   Buford (GA) (11-2)  

33.   Bixby (OK) (12-0)

34.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (13-0)

35.   Aledo (TX) (13-0)

36.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (11-1)

37.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (13-1)

38.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (9-2)

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (12-1)

40.   Phenix City (AL) Central (12-0)

41.   Gainesville (GA) (12-1)  

42.   Florence (SC) South Florence (14-0)

43.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom (12-0)

44.   Yelm (WA) (13-0)

45.   Belleville (MI) (13-1)

46.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (13-1)

47.   Miami (FL) Columbus (11-2)

48.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (13-0)

49.   Cocoa (FL) (12-1)

50.   Harrisburg (PA) Bishop McDevitt (13-0)

51.   Norfolk (VA) Maury (13-0)

52.   Carrollton (GA) (11-2)

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis (13-1)

54.   Concord (CA) De La Salle (10-2)

55.   Miami (FL) Central (7-4)

56.   Portland (OR) Central Catholic (13-0)

57.   El Cajon (CA) Granite Hills (12-0)

58.   Wexford (PA) North Allegheny (12-1)

59.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (10-2)

60.   Milton (GA) (11-2)

61.   Miami (FL) Booker T. Washington (8-3)

62.   West Linn (OR) (11-1)

63.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (11-2)

64.   Louisville (MS) (14-0)

65.   Little Rock (AR) Parkview (13-0)

66.   Liberty (MO) North (12-1) 

67.   Southfield (MI) Arts and Tech (13-1)

68.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (11-2)

69.   Kahuku (HI) (10-2)

70.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More (12-0)

71.   Avon (OH) (13-1)

72.   Folsom (CA) (11-2)

73.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (11-2)

74.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln (11-1)

75.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge (11-3)

76.   Frankfort (IL) Lincoln-Way East (13-1)

77.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day (12-1)

78.   Carlsbad (CA) (10-1)

79.   Cibolo (TX) Steele (12-1)

80.   American Fork (UT) (11-2)

81.   Brownsburg (IN) (9-1)

82.   Katy (TX) (10-2)

83.   Midwest City (OK) Carl Albert (13-0)

84.   Chattanooga (TN) McAllie (11-1)

85.   Ruston (LA) (11-1)

86.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (10-2)

87.   Littleton (CO) Columbine (13-0)

88.   Hattiesburg (MS) Oak Grove (12-1)

89.   Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (10-2)

90.   Omaha (NE) Westside (13-0)

91.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee (13-1)

92.   Martinsburg (WV) (12-0)

93.   Mililani (HI) (10-2)

94.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (11-1)

95.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis (4-6)

96.   Graham-Kapowsin (WA) (13-0)

97.   Fresno (CA) Clovis North (13-0)

98.   Matthews (NC) Weddington (12-2)

99.   Dripping Springs (TX) (10-2)

100.  Fayetteville (AR) (12-0)

Can MC beat BC?

would it be close?

[GardenStateBaller]

1 minute ago, Testadura said:

Can MC beat BC?

would it be close?

MC lost to C-M 31-28

BC lost to C-M 61-21

[Testadura]

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

MC lost to C-M 31-28

BC lost to C-M 61-21

So are these rankings a bit off?

[GardenStateBaller]

Just now, Testadura said:

So are these rankings a bit off?

You said it, not me. 

[Testadura]

1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said:

You said it, not me. 

I agree that BG and MD belong at the top.  IMG at 4 is ok.  It’s tough to place perfectly 100 top teams.  

[GardenStateBaller]

1 minute ago, Testadura said:

I agree that BG and MD belong at the top.  IMG at 4 is ok.  It’s tough to place perfectly 100 top teams.  

That's why we use our criteria:

1. Team must be undefeated

2. Team must have at least one win vs elite OOS team

3. Team must have strong SOS

It makes selecting your #1 a tad bit easier. 

[Testadura]

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

That's why we use our criteria:

1. Team must be undefeated

2. Team must have at least one win vs elite OOS team

3. Team must have strong SOS

It makes selecting your #1 a tad bit easier. 

You just selected BG.  

who is we?  It’s just you, which is fine.  

1 of your criteria eliminates choosing the best team.  But you do put the effort in.  

[GardenStateBaller]

Just now, Testadura said:

You just selected BG.  

who is we?  It’s just you, which is fine.  

1 of your criteria eliminates choosing the best team.  But you do put the effort in.  

We is anyone posting on my site. If you're here it's "we" and "ours." 

IMG has a stronger SOS than BG

IMG has best win amongst the two teams (#6 SJP)

IMG opponents have a higher winning%

IMG has wins vs three probable State Champions

 

[Testadura]

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

We is anyone posting on my site. If you're here it's "we" and "ours." 

IMG has a stronger SOS than BG

IMG has best win amongst the two teams (#6 SJP)

IMG opponents have a higher winning%

IMG has wins vs three probable State Champions

 

You keeping ignoring the most important facts, which don’t help you.  And MD is the best.  

[GardenStateBaller]

Just now, Testadura said:

You keeping ignoring the most important facts, which don’t help you.  And MD is the best.  

They may be the best in some polls. Not ours. And that's ok. I already booked my flight to Bradenton to award our beautiful trophy and generous check to IMG. 

[whiteshoes12]

Understand the Bergen Catholic-Miami Central comparisons.    Looking just at a similar opponent game, Chaminade-Madonna, there is no doubt that the Central game was more competitive.    Another factor in Central's favor is the Gorman game, they played them as close as anyone.   The two three-point losses to Norland should not be held against them as well.   Without being too critical, they played four good teams all year and lost all four games.    Competitive yes, but losses none the same.   Not that Bergen's schedule is that impressive either.     New Jersey was way down this year.    I guess as I go forward, may want to consider that Central is too low and Bergen is too high, but don't feel comfortable putting a four-loss team over Bergen.

[Testadura]

8 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

They may be the best in some polls. Not ours. And that's ok. I already booked my flight to Bradenton to award our beautiful trophy and generous check to IMG. 

Are you taking Roy?

You have to tape this again.  The looks are priceless.  

[Testadura]

50 minutes ago, whiteshoes12 said:

Understand the Bergen Catholic-Miami Central comparisons.    Looking just at a similar opponent game, Chaminade-Madonna, there is no doubt that the Central game was more competitive.    Another factor in Central's favor is the Gorman game, they played them as close as anyone.   The two three-point losses to Norland should not be held against them as well.   Without being too critical, they played four good teams all year and lost all four games.    Competitive yes, but losses none the same.   Not that Bergen's schedule is that impressive either.     New Jersey was way down this year.    I guess as I go forward, may want to consider that Central is too low and Bergen is too high, but don't feel comfortable putting a four-loss team over Bergen.

Anyone can pull out 2 teams out of a 100 and say, hey, this doesn’t make sense.  Doesn’t mean your poll is not very good.  That’s not the standard.  I think getting #1 right and the top 10 are more important.  You’re on the mark there and BC had a good year.  Who’s gonna cry about MC with 4 losses being in the 50s?

[Testadura]

3 minutes ago, Testadura said:

Are you taking Roy?

You have to tape this again.  The looks are priceless.  

IMG owes you, which I’m now starting to focus on.  I was more focused on what you owe IMG.  

[GardenStateBaller]

47 minutes ago, Testadura said:

Are you taking Roy?

You have to tape this again.  The looks are priceless.  

Could happen as he"s already going to be vacationing with his family in Tampa. Stay tuned.