GardenStateBaller Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Year SOS T100 OOS wins CP Natl Rank 2022 48.5 1 (Jones) 4 2021 47.0 0 7 2020 46.2 0 21 2019 44.9 1 (SJC) 6 2018 38.8 0 12 2017 34.6 0 214 2016 40.9 0 185 For comparison sake the recent SOS of some elite teams are as follows: SJB 70.3; MD 70.5; SFA 60.1; IMG 69.1; GC 56.1; DLS 54.3; C10 55.3; Saguaro 59.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: I’ll play along ☺️ 2018: Evangel Christian Academy 2019: St. John’s College 2020: St. Frances Academy & St. Thomas Aquinas scheduled [Covid ruined everyone’s season] [IMG Academy] instead 2021: Mater Dei 2022: Jones Which public has a better list of OOS games 2018-2022? Cen10? Chandler AZ Liberty NV nope Miami Central? 2018: St. John’s College DC 2019: St. Frances Academy MD 2021: St. John Bosco CA and Bishop Gorman NV That’s better but Duncanville’s is tougher. They’re new to the national scene and have already faced everyone there is to face. Miami Central has been dominating public Florida for decades just like Cen10 has been dominating public California. This is all about DVs decision to stop scheduling elites OOS privates since the MD 42-point loss. Even after losing to power privates like SJB, SFA, BG, etc MC continues to test themselves by scheduling elites year in and year out. Not to mention they had the balls to schedule IMG in Bradenton last season and beat them. This season they'll be playing BG for the third time. After getting blown out by IMG and MD, DV is now only scheduling guaranteed wins vs OOS publics like Jones and Rockledge. They are doing the exact opposite of what the elites in the game are doing. It's a bad look for the program and TX HSFB in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Year SOS T100 OOS wins CP Natl Rank 2022 48.5 1 (Jones) 4 2021 47.0 0 7 2020 46.2 0 21 2019 44.9 1 (SJC) 6 2018 38.8 0 12 2017 34.6 0 214 2016 40.9 0 185 For comparison sake the recent SOS of some elite teams are as follows: SJB 70.3; MD 70.5; SFA 60.1; IMG 69.1; GC 56.1; DLS 54.3; C10 55.3; Saguaro 59.0 What’s MCs sos? Go ahead and post it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: This is all about DVs decision to stop scheduling elites OOS privates since the MD 42-point loss. Even after losing to power privates like SJB, SFA, BG, etc MC continues to test themselves by scheduling elites year in and year out. Not to mention they had the balls to schedule IMG in Bradenton last season and beat them. This season they'll be playing BG for the third time. After getting blown out by IMG and MD, DV is now only scheduling guaranteed wins vs OOS publics like Jones and Rockledge. They are doing the exact opposite of what the elites in the game are doing. It's a bad look for the program and TX HSFB in general. Oh yeah, year in year out? Who the hell did MC schedule in 2020 after getting blasted in ‘19 by SFA? (In state or OOS) Go ahead and post it gsb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Oh yeah, year in year out? Who the hell did MC schedule in 2020 after getting blasted in ‘19 by SFA? (In state or OOS) Go ahead and post it gsb 2020: na 2021: SJB, BG 2022: IMG 2023: BG The above teams compared to Jones and Rockledge is far superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Horsefly said: What’s MCs sos? Go ahead and post it! It's not just about SOS. It's also about games vs T100 OOS teams. MC's OOS opponents since 2016: BGx2, IMGx2, SJC, SFA, SJB. No other public in America can touch those numbers. 2-2 overall record vs IMG and BG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: It's not just about SOS. It's also about games vs T100 OOS teams. MC's OOS opponents since 2016: BGx2, IMGx2, SJC, SFA, SJB. No other public in America can touch those numbers. 2-2 overall record vs IMG and BG Yes it matters you listed it as a factor when you posted other teams sos What’s their record v SJB, SJC and SFA? They’re 1-4 v elite OOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Not really. Duncanville has plenty of competition in Dallas to give them a preseason challenge; and they’ve hosted the #1 team in the nation two years in a row. All before winning a state championship. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Football_National_Championship Actually, 2022: St. John Bosco #1 2021: Mater Dei #1 2020: IMG Academy #1 2018: North Shore #1 2016: Bishop Gorman #1 2015: De La Salle #1 2014: Allen #1 2013: Allen #1 2012: Katy #1 | Booker T Washington #1 2010: St. Thomas Aquinas #1 2009: Abilene #1 2007: Miami Northwestern #1 2006: Carroll #1 2005: Carroll #1 2004: Carroll #1 | Colerain #1 For 20 year, Texas has been in the conversation of being the national number #1 or facing a team in the conversation for #1. I don’t know GSB 🤷🏻♀️ It looks like the other states have a lot of catching up to do. Including Miami Central. California is doing it by stacking two teams with the best players. Yes, they’re all from Orange County but if Texas decided to build teams from the major cities with students from an area the size of Orange County. It just wouldn’t be fair to the rest of the country. To me, it just looks like everyone wants to be Texas ☺️ In order to be considered nationally relevant and elite in the Modern Era of HSFB, programs need to schedule and BEAT other elite teams. No question that DV has tested themselves of late, but look at those recent results. Total blowouts. Then they start scheduling non-elites for guaranteed wins. That's fine, but don't expect to ever be in the running for a MNC. That's the only point I'm trying to make. And the other top pollsters are in 100% agreement with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: 2020: na 2021: SJB, BG 2022: IMG 2023: BG The above teams compared to Jones and Rockledge is far superior. 2020 is applicable. DV scheduled an elite OOS that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Horsefly said: Yes it matters you listed it as a factor when you posted other teams sos What’s their record v SJB, SJC and SFA? They’re 1-4 v elite OOS Beat both BG and IMG. What other private it America can make that claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Horsefly said: 2020 is applicable. DV scheduled an elite OOS that year Kudos for scheduling IMG. Gotta win that game though to be considered elite and nationally-relevant. Again, DV lost to MD and IMG by a combined 69 points! Instead of shying aways from those two, they sholud be looking for revenge games like MC did with BG and IMG, who they both beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Kudos for scheduling IMG. Gotta win that game though to be considered elite and nationally-relevant. Again, DV lost to MD and IMG by a combined 69 points! Instead of shying aways from those two, they sholud be looking for revenge games like MC did with BG and IMG, who they both beat Funny they haven’t avenged those losses to SFA (that loss was 2019!) and SJB and haven’t even touched MD. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Beat both BG and IMG. What other private it America can make that claim? MD, and they did it when those teams weren’t in down years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: “Elite” is subjective. The list of national champions and Texas’ inclusion in said list says so 🤷🏻♀️ If Thing 1 and Thing 2 wanna be taken seriously; even the playing field. Stop fielding teams with double and triple the talent as their competition and let’s see what happens. St. John Bosco found that out pretty quickly thanks to The Bishop and they stopped scheduling powers even in the middle of and after they had already been seen and ranked as a national and California #1. Until everyone else and eventually even California people started calling them out on it did they start scheduling equal competition. Duncanville was legit in 2018 and 2019. That’s when Mater Dei should’ve decided to show up. How many MNCs does TX have in the Modern Era of HSFB (since 2016)? In this time period no public has won a consensus MNC. And they never will without an elite regular season win vs a Power Private. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: I’ve said it before: Real 🏆 better than 👻 trophy That's fine, then don't bitch about not being ranked high by the pollsters due to an inferior SOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: I didn’t. You started your “Texas bashing” thread and I pointed out their scheduling and being the ones to start the scheduling dominance over everyone the past few years. That remark wasn't directed towards you. It was a general comment to all TX fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, SeaShells21 said: Your choice of words exposed your attempt to bring down Duncanville because it doesn’t work. ”T100 OOS wins” They have one legit OOS win ever. Versus #50 SJC in 2019. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: I know it specifically wasn’t but I just decided to be the one to play along. ☺️ Duncanville can’t be called out on their scheduling but maybe they can be called out about biting off more than they can chew. MC also schedules aggressively, yet has wins vs BG and IMG. My gripe is that DV gave-up on scheduling the elites. The same goes for DS this season. NS can't even enter this conversation. And Thank God for Atascocita! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, SeaShells21 said: They’re in the running to be Florida number 1 every season. Duncanville is not. DV is also in the running to be TXs team annually. They compete with NS, while MC mainly competes with STA and IMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowso305 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/21/2023 at 12:03 AM, Horsefly said: 2020 is applicable. DV scheduled an elite OOS that year northwestern was top 10 in the nation when they played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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