1Since71 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Horsefly said: 👇🏽 This is a lawyer speak way of saying: recruit! 😂 Lol every private school has a shadow day that kids interested in that school walk around campus all day as 8th graders.You Texans really are hurt by simple ass kickings 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Because those other teams stink. Greatness wants to be surrounded by greatness. Don Bosco benefited the same ways from 2000-2012. The hot team(s) attract the best ballers. It doesn’t last forever. Just ask John Curtis, Ed’s, DBP, BG and Trinity*. MD did nothing spectacular from 1999-2016 with the same HC. They didn’t just magically get better with scheduling. Those Cali schools were losing to BG on a regular basis. So in their talking to players and parents, what were their early selling points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 1Since71 said: Lol every private school has a shadow day that kids interested in that school walk around campus all day as 8th graders.You Texans really are hurt by simple ass kickings 😂 And how do those kids get interested in the 8th grade what school they want to attend for shadow day? Lol So you think mater dei and SJB have developed a system of attracting talent without recruiting that even colleges don’t use? 😂 Edited March 7, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Horsefly said: MD did nothing spectacular from 1999-2016 with the same HC. They didn’t just magically get better with scheduling. Those Cali schools were losing to BG on a regular basis. So in their talking to players and parents, what were their early selling points? Look at their OOS games the last five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: It’s no different than what Jesuit, Nolan Catholic or Prestonwood Christian currently do. In no way, shape, or form does Dallas Jesuit or Houston Strake Jesuit do the same thing that Mater Dei and St. John Bosco does. Otherwise, those schools would have 80% of the elite talent in the DFW or GHA area. Nolan Catholic does have some athletes from across the Fort Worth suburbs, and Prestonwood from the Dallas suburbs but they’re private schools, they don’t have attendance zones to pull from. But they don’t do it they way it’s done in SoCal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Since71 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Horsefly said: And how do those kids get interested in the 8th grade what school they want to attend for shadow day? Lol So you think mater dei and SJB have developed a system of attracting talent without recruiting that even colleges don’t use? 😂 I already explained how they attract kids now you’re purposely being obtuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: In no way, shape, or form does Dallas Jesuit or Houston Strake Jesuit do the same thing that Mater Dei and St. John Bosco does. Otherwise, those schools would have 80% of the elite talent in the DFW or GHA area. Nolan Catholic does have some athletes from across the Fort Worth suburbs, and Prestonwood from the Dallas suburbs but they’re private schools, they don’t have attendance zones to pull from. But they don’t do it they way it’s done in SoCal. They all have to recruit students in order to keep their doors open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: They all have to recruit students in order to keep their doors open. I acknowledged that. My argument was that it’s not done in the same way as the other power privates do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: So if all Cali privates all operate on the same principle, then how come MD and SJB consistently get better talent than Bishop Amat, Santa margarita and the jserra types? Private schools in Texas play in a secondary, inferior league than publics, so they don’t attract the same level or amount of talent. Not the same in Cali Location Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 1Since71 said: Lol every private school has a shadow day that kids interested in that school walk around campus all day as 8th graders.You Texans really are hurt by simple ass kickings 😂 Yes they are 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Location my gaud man they are both experiencing a relatively recent surge in talent. They didn’t change locations in the past 15 years! Edited March 7, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 TX will have plenty of chances to silence the critics in 2022. I expect Allen, Cita, DeSoto and DV to all represent well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: TX will have plenty of chances to silence the critics in 2022. I expect Allen, Cita, DeSoto and DV to all represent well. You should know Texas is it’s own world. It’s never going to be defined by OOS critics or play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Horsefly said: my gaud man they are both experiencing a relatively recent surge in talent. They didn’t change locations in the past 15 years! Bosco got Negro. Negro coached Bellflower Junior American football for many years before being a HS coach. He was well known in the youth community. Long Beach district changed their enrollment policies as well. Which is why Poly hasn't been as good 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Bosco got Negro. Negro coached Bellflower Junior American football for many years before being a HS coach. He was well known in the youth community. Long Beach district changed their enrollment policies as well. Which is why Poly hasn't been as good Steeler, the simple answer is as a minimum; players, parents, boosters, youth league and 7on7 coaches and others close to these programs do the recruiting. It’s not some new angle Rollinson and Negro schemed up to get kids on campus. they hit these groups early and hard so that by 8th grade “shadow day” they have already been groomed/marked by these school handlers Edited March 7, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Steeler, the simple answer is as a minimum; players, parents, boosters, youth league and 7on7 coaches and others close to these programs do the recruiting. It’s not some new angle Rollinson and Negro schemed up to get kids on campus. That's how it is everywhere. Including Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: That's how it is everywhere. Including Texas. I said at a minimum thats what’s done. Did I say it wasn’t that way in Texas? You guys are the ones running around thinking MD and SJB do it by outreach; playing OOS games and location…because that’s what was said in this thread Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I said at a minimum thats what’s done. Did I say it wasn’t that way in Texas? You guys are the ones running around thinking MD and SJB do it by outreach; playing OOS games and location…because that’s what was said in this thread Smh I never said that. Bosco/MD don't have to do anything. They'll get kids their until there's a switch in coaches. Winning attracts kids. When Negro was hired, I said that Bosco would get talented kids because of his background. That happened, just like I said Baiz at Cucamonga and now Etiwanda would have a lot of success(best coach in Southern Cali I've been around) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: I never said that. Bosco/MD don't have to do anything. They'll get kids their until there's a switch in coaches. Winning attracts kids. When Negro was hired, I said that Bosco would get talented kids because of his background. That happened, just like I said Baiz at Cucamonga and now Etiwanda would have a lot of success(best coach in Southern Cali I've been around) You said it was all about location. Smh Edited March 8, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: You said it was all about location. Smh I said that Bishop Amat, and the other teams you mentioned don't get the players Bosco and Mater Dei get because of their locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: I said that Bishop Amat, and the other teams you mentioned don't get the players Bosco and Mater Dei get because of their locations. How close is BA to SJB? Edited March 8, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: How close is BA to bellflower? 20 miles The bigger deal is how far is Long Beach, Carson, Compton etc to La Puente I sometimes have to go to carson for work stuff. It takes me an hour and a half if there's traffic. I live in walnut. It's a 15 minute drive to Bishop Amat from my house on the streets Edited March 8, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, Steeler01 said: 20 miles The bigger deal is how far is Long Beach, Carson, Compton etc to La Puente My point is the schools are in close enough proximity to each other. They’re not that far apart and neither are those cities to la puente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: My point is the schools are in close enough proximity to each other. They’re not that far apart and neither are those cities to la puente Your point is wrong. You have no clue about what you're talking about. No kid from Long Beach will travel up north on the 605 passing the 5 fwy. That's not happening. When you come to Cali and take that FWY at 7 am get back to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: Your point is wrong. You have no clue about what you're talking about. No kid from Long Beach will travel up north on the 605 passing the 5 fwy. That's not happening. When you come to Cali and take that FWY at 7 am get back to me No kids from Hacienda Heights, Glendora, San Dimas, Walnut, Rowland Heights etc are going to SJB. For the same reason Edited March 8, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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