Columbiafan Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Texasball said: Refresh my memory.IMO National Polls are worthless - they might get 2 or 3 at the top correct, the rest is only opinion and most of the time it’s garbage. Just look at some of these teams ranked ahead of North Shore. North Shore will be special the next 3 seasons! Would love to see them get back on schedule with someone like DBP, PC, or BC. Early season rankings seem to always help the highly ranked teams - not saying it should. This game was meant for playoff system not votes!! DBP, Buford, CM, the little AZ school , CC, SJB are all over ranked by this site. Most will ride wave for being overrated early. It gives people something to talk about like any other preseason ranking They should be a projection of teams to watch for the coming season otherwise it's not any value but it's not long until all 50 states are playing football so everything will be on the field at that point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Texasball said: Refresh my memory. IMO National Polls are worthless - they might get 2 or 3 at the top correct, the rest is only opinion and most of the time it’s garbage. Just look at some of these teams ranked ahead of North Shore. North Shore will be special the next 3 seasons! Would love to see them get back on schedule with someone like DBP, PC, or BC. Early season rankings seem to always help the highly ranked teams - not saying it should. This game was meant for playoff system not votes!! DBP, Buford, CM, the little AZ school , CC, SJB are all over ranked by this site. Most will ride wave for being overrated early. At season's end most of the pollsters get #1 right, which is all that matters. Unfortunately, NS will NEVER schedule a quality OOS opponent, which will continue to hurt them in the national polls annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: At season's end most of the pollsters get #1 right, which is all that matters. Unfortunately, NS will NEVER schedule a quality OOS opponent, which will continue to hurt them in the national polls annually. NS won MP MNC in 2018 without an OOS opponent. 🤷🏽♂️ Edited August 11, 2022 by MC ROCKETS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: NS won MP MNC in 2018 without an OOS opponent. 🤷🏽♂️ It was a share. And that was four seasons ago. Lots has changed since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Unfortunately, NS will NEVER schedule a quality OOS opponent Never say never. North Shore had De La Salle scheduled in 2020 but that game got cancelled because of Covid. Maybe sometime in the near future they’ll try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Never say never. North Shore had De La Salle scheduled in 2020 but that game got cancelled because of Covid. Maybe sometime in the near future they’ll try again. After what MD did to DV, I doubt NS wants to chance the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: After what MD did to DV, I doubt NS wants to chance the same. Who says they have to schedule those super all-star teams? You said "quality OOS opponent." There's plenty of those. Doesn't have to be someone named SJB, MD, SFA, IMG, SFA. Miami Central, East. St. Louis, Buford, St. John's, St. Joseph's Prep, etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Who says they have to schedule those super all-star teams? You said "quality OOS opponent." There's plenty of those. Doesn't have to be someone named SJB, MD, SFA, IMG, SFA. Miami Central, East. St. Louis, Buford, St. John's, St. Joseph's Prep, etc. If Allen, DV and DS all are why can't NS? It would be laughable to not follow their leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: It was a share. And that was four seasons ago. Lots has changed since then. Does it matter that is was a share? And what has changed so much in your eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: Does it matter that is was a share? And what has changed so much in your eyes? The SOS of the power privates are so strong these days that no public can compete without at least one significant oos victory. NS needs to catch up with MC, DV, DS and Allen in this respect. Can't expect to be a T5 team without such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The SOS of the power privates are so strong these days that no public can compete without at least one significant oos victory. NS needs to catch up with MC, DV, DS and Allen in this respect. Can't expect to be a T5 team without such. I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The SOS of the power privates are so strong these days that no public can compete without at least one significant oos victory. NS needs to catch up with MC, DV, DS and Allen in this respect. Can't expect to be a T5 team without such. Westlake finished top 3 last year without an OOS game. Your turn.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: Westlake finished top 3 last year without an OOS game. Your turn.... They also finished #5. This is just more proof that a public team without a quality oos win may never win another MNC again. Third place is the second loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: They also finished #5. This is just more proof that a public team without a quality oos win may never win another MNC again. Third place is the second loser. I never said it was consensus top 3. Do better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, MC ROCKETS said: I never said it was consensus top 3. Do better! We did. And the MNC of our poll will be receiving a check for $5,000! Historic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC ROCKETS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: We did. And the MNC of our poll will be receiving a check for $5,000! Historic. 🤦🏽♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 9:02 AM, GardenStateBaller said: At season's end most of the pollsters get #1 right, which is all that matters. Unfortunately, NS will NEVER schedule a quality OOS opponent, which will continue to hurt them in the national polls annually. That is Bull Shit! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 11:49 AM, GardenStateBaller said: The SOS of the power privates are so strong these days that no public can compete without at least one significant oos victory. NS needs to catch up with MC, DV, DS and Allen in this respect. Can't expect to be a T5 team without such. BS - there is only handful of privates that are overly good right now. Bring them so called private powers not named MD, SJB, SFA, IMG - I believe top public schools from Texas, FL, GA can play and beat many of the others. STA is big factor. If they really serious got aggressive like the cali schools in recruiting they would probably jump MD/SJB in my opinion It's all garbage these vomit private schools play by different rules and act like they are doing something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 12:23 AM, Columbiafan said: It gives people something to talk about like any other preseason ranking They should be a projection of teams to watch for the coming season otherwise it's not any value but it's not long until all 50 states are playing football so everything will be on the field at that point I get it - still its all hog wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Texasball said: BS - there is only handful of privates that are overly good right now. Bring them so called private powers not named MD, SJB, SFA, IMG - I believe top public schools from Texas, FL, GA can play and beat many of the others. STA is big factor. If they really serious got aggressive like the cali schools in recruiting they would probably jump MD/SJB in my opinion It's all garbage these vomit private schools play by different rules and act like they are doing something! STA has actually been losing players to teams like Dillard, MC and C-M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/12/2022 at 4:32 PM, GardenStateBaller said: STA has actually been losing players to teams like Dillard, MC and C-M. Good - Tx teams are 2-1 vs those 3 Stephenville beat Dillard (Dillard was bigger school) Miami Central beat 3A type team out of Dallas (This game should have never been scheduled) Tyler Lee beat C-M (CM won state had nice little recruited up team) I have great respect for Miami Central loved it when they beat Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Also it is just stupid to rank teams like IMG and SFA who can't play for state and only gets 10 games if they are lucky. Yes, it is their fault! If they had to play 14-16 games like state champions do, all kinds of things could happen like freaking injuries that other schools are forced to deal with. IMG / SFA should not be ranked due lack of real schedule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Texasball said: Also it is just stupid to rank teams like IMG and SFA who can't play for state and only gets 10 games if they are lucky. Yes, it is their fault! If they had to play 14-16 games like state champions do, all kinds of things could happen like freaking injuries that other schools are forced to deal with. IMG / SFA should not be ranked due lack of real schedule! SFA has the toughest schedule in America! You can't blame them for being the most feared HSFB team on Earth!! And they should never be penalized for such. Quality over quantity in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 7:02 AM, GardenStateBaller said: Unfortunately, NS will NEVER schedule a quality OOS opponent, which will continue to hurt them in the national polls annually. It seems that way...... scheduling and beating DLS these days doesn't help this case either. Good team to schedule, but hardly a win that's gonna vault you to the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Just now, Steeler01 said: It seems that way...... scheduling and beating DLS these days doesn't help this case either. Good team to schedule, but hardly a win that's gonna vault you to the top Blowout losses to IMG, MD, SJB and SFA should forever limit TXs ability to earn Top 5 post-season slots going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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