Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Westfield and spring lose every year in the playoffs. Nothing new. Neither has been to a semifinal in decades. But you’d know that steeler if you actually watched the games. Which has nothing to do with who the top teams in Texas are. Brackets matter for that too. Westfield in Lake Travis's bracket would make the Semi's annually. Would that make them better than they currently are? Edited February 21, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Since71 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Oh how Id love to see SLC, Guyer play the OLUs, SMs and cathedral Catholics types is Los alamitos still playing OOS? I sure hope so, they’ll get their butts handed to them by any worthwhile team. Bet? Scheduled to play AHP in Florida and Basha AZ. we would like to see Texas teams play anyone but they don’t seem to be up for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Since71 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Oh how Id love to see SLC, Guyer play the OLUs, SMs and cathedral Catholics types is Los alamitos still playing OOS? I sure hope so, they’ll get their butts handed to them by any worthwhile team. Bet? Scheduled to play AHP in Florida and Basha AZ. we would like to see Texas teams play anyone but they don’t seem to be up for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Games are about match ups. Why the hell does NS have a harder time, yearly, with Houston area teams than DV does with DFW area teams? NS plays the top teams from Houston a lot more than Duncanville plays the top teams from Dallas too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: NS plays the top teams from Houston a lot more than Duncanville plays the top teams from Dallas too Who else would be more competitive than Desoto and SLC in DFW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 1Since71 said: Scheduled to play AHP in Florida and Basha AZ. we would like to see Texas teams play anyone but they don’t seem to be up for it Allen is playing SJB, atascocita vs Liberty AZ, and DV and Desoto are finalizing OOS schedules I doubt if any of these teams will be preseason top 3 in Texas. But here they are with their schedules. What’s OLU, SMs, Folsom and cathedral catholic schedule like? Edited February 21, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Who else would be more competitive than Desoto and SLC in DFW? Teams in the last 4 years Allen, Guyer, Ryan, and Martin off the top of my head The more you play top teams, the more possibilities of you have of having a close game. NS was playing Katy twice a season when Katy was in division 1. They play Westfield annually. Duncanville plays Cedar Hill and Desoto. Only twice have they been top Dallas teams in the last 4 years. Edited February 21, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Teams in the last 4 years Allen, Guyer, Ryan, and Martin off the top of my head The more you play top teams, the more possibilities of you have of having a close game. NS was playing Katy twice a season when Katy was in division 1. They play Westfield annually. Duncanville plays Cedar Hill and Desoto. Only twice have they been top Dallas teams in the last 4 years. Ryan is 5A allen was last competitive in ‘18, lost to Rockwall in ‘19, trinity in ‘20 and SLC in ‘21 guyer was 6-6 in ‘18, lost to SLC in ‘19 Martin was 5-6 in ‘18 and lost to SLC in ‘20 and ‘21 Last year Guyer would be the only team that was on par with SLC or Desoto, the rest were not. the true assessment is that DFW is a weaker region that Houston in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Ryan is 5A allen was last competitive in ‘18, lost to Rockwall in ‘19, trinity in ‘20 and SLC in ‘21 guyer was 6-6 in ‘18, lost to SLC in ‘19 Martin was 5-6 in ‘18 and lost to SLC in ‘20 and ‘21 Last year Guyer would be the only team that was on par with SLC or Desoto, the rest were not. the true assessment is that DFW is a weaker region that Houston in general You're mistaken what I said. Duncanville doesn't play but one or maybe two top Dallas teams annually on average In the last 4 years the teams I mentioned in a given year were top Dallas teams and Duncanville didn't play them. NS has played a lot more top Houston teams than Duncanville has played top Dallas teams. Desoto- Westfield proved the bottom quote to be a lie Edited February 21, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Which has nothing to do with who the top teams in Texas are. Brackets matter for that too. Westfield in Lake Travis's bracket would make the Semi's annually. Would that make them better than they currently are? My point was Westfield loses in the playoffs regardless of who they play. In addition to losing to Desoto and Duncanville in b2b years, previous to that they’ve lost to Guyer, Longview and lufkin. And they had a successful regular season all those years too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Steeler01 said: You're mistaken what I said. Duncanville doesn't play but one or maybe two top Dallas teams annually on average In the last 4 years the teams I mentioned in a given year were top Dallas teams and Duncanville didn't play them. NS has played a lot more top Houston teams than Duncanville has played top Dallas teams. Desoto- Westfield proved the bottom quote to be a lie Allen, Martin and Ryan last year weren’t going to give them a more competitive game than sLC. Westfield and spring aren’t all there is to Houston. when was the last time DFW won any 6A title steeler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: My point was Westfield loses in the playoffs regardless of who they play. In addition to losing to Desoto and Duncanville in b2b years, previous to that they’ve lost to Guyer, Longview and lufkin. And they had a successful regular season all those years too Westfield the last 4 years 2018 Lost to NS Lost to LV(State Champ) 2019 Lost to NS Lost to Guyer in the Semi's 2020 Lost to NS Lost to Duncaville 2021 Lost to Desoto They're losing to the top teams from Dallas in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Allen, Martin and Ryan last year weren’t going to give them a more competitive game than sLC. Westfield and spring aren’t all there is to Houston. when was the last time DFW won any 6A title steeler? Who said last year? In the last 4 years they've had teams to give them better games than teams they've faced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Westfield and spring aren’t all there is to Houston. when was the last time DFW won any 6A title steeler? No, but you're claiming they're better as a region. NS has won the big titles. Katy has won division 2 when division 1 has the heavy hitters. Basically NS is your entire argument for "they're a better region argument of you go by titles" Edited February 21, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Who said last year? In the last 4 years they've had teams to give them better games than teams they've faced. Lol no they haven’t. I just went through the teams you listed and their seasons. They’ve absolutely played the best of DFW had to offer since ‘18. Hell, chill played them to within 14 in ‘20 who went on to the D2 finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: No, but you're claiming they're better as a region. NS has won the big titles. Katy has won division 2 when division 1 has the heavy hitters. Basically NS is your entire argument for "they're a better region argument of you go by titles" Yes and DFW won none! NS and their difficulty managing their schedule is the argument in ‘20 chill was a DFW top 5 team losing to Duncanville 28-14. Who beat chill in the D2 finals and what was the score? who handed allen their first regular season home loss in over 11 years? Edited February 21, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Since71 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Allen is playing SJB, atascocita vs Liberty AZ, and DV and Desoto are finalizing OOS schedules I doubt if any of these teams will be preseason top 3 in Texas. But here they are with their schedules. What’s OLU, SMs, Folsom and cathedral catholic schedule like? Good games for Texas for sure. SM and Cathedral have played OOS.I believe Cathedral is playing Hamilton AZ in the honor bowl games.OLU and Folsom don’t play OOS games of any significance Cathedral will be playing Chandler AZ and their Texas transfer QB Edited February 21, 2022 by 1Since71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Lol no they haven’t. I just went through the teams you listed and their seasons. They’ve absolutely played the best of DFW had to offer since ‘18. Hell, chill played them to within 14 in ‘20 who went on to the D2 finals. You went through each team where they lost. That's all you did. They haven't played the best 3 or 4 teams annually like NS does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Yes and DFW won none! NS and their difficulty managing their schedule is the argument who handed allen their first regular season home loss in over 11 years? Winning a title has nothing to do with whose a better region. Who destroyed the Houston teams that are considered Depth teams in Houston? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, pied said: Trying to follow along, and unclear whether this line of discussion is supposed to prove Texas' strength or weakness lol It has nothing to do with that, but I get why you could see that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Winning a title has nothing to do with whose a better region. Who destroyed the Houston teams that are considered Depth teams in Houston? Using the title argument, the Austin area is as good as any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Winning a title has nothing to do with whose a better region. Who destroyed the Houston teams that are considered Depth teams in Houston? Yes it does matter steeler. When Katy destroyed cedar hill in ‘20, Katy entered as a 2d place district team. Chill walked through the best of DFW What DFW teams beat Allen at home much less by 21 points? They’ve had 11 seasons to do it, but Houston Atascocita did it with a less than elite team. Allen was top 5 in DFW last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steeler01 said: Using the title argument, the Austin area is as good as any No, because Westlake has walked through the Austin area with ease. NS and Katy in title years have not walked through Houston with ease. I told you before that Duncanville should have had an easy title run last year because NS was young and Westlake was in the other div. they dog walked DFW but stumbled in the title game. That speaks to not only Duncanville but DFW in relation to the rest of Texas imo Edited February 21, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Yes it does matter steeler. When Katy destroyed cedar hill in ‘20, Katy entered as a 2d place district team. Chill walked through the best of DFW They were also 2nd in their district. I like your narrative. Carroll and Duncanville were the best in Dallas both were in division 1 So tell me how they could walk through the best from Dallas without playing the top two teams from that area. Just now, Horsefly said: What DFW teams beat Allen at home much less by 21 points? They’ve had 11 seasons to do it, but Houston Atascocita did it with a less than elite team. Allen was top 5 in DFW last year When's the last time Allen played a top 2 team from Dallas at their stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler01 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: No, because Westlake has walked through the Austin area with ease. NS and Katy in title years have not walked through Houston with ease. NS walked through Houston with ease in 18-20. What playoff game was close Edited February 21, 2022 by Steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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