WILKINSON Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said: I can tell you what So Calif D-1 (2)(3) semi final teams aren't doing "recently".............getting blown out 3-42 at home vs some school from another state. Servite isn't very much relevant on the national scene. Other than playing Bishop Gorman and American Fork, that's all there is to Servite's OOS resume. They had one good year last year and didn't make the most of it by scheduling nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: we also get Cita and liberty. Will be a great comparison with Pitt. But my goodness, I was shocked to see the mighty Cali owned by Utah last year by a 7-4 team at that. 59-27! 😂 UT went 2-0 vs Cali in 2021. Amazing what happens when MD and SJB aren’t doing all the lifting Our teams based in the SF Valley (Jokes, Westlake Village) are generally lacking the linemen size that are prevalant in the Trinity League. The SF Valley teams have no business being ranked in the Top 75 Nationally. They like to play Utah teams because our teams think Utah is easy. In reality the Utah Top 3 are better than the Calif 10-20 ranked teams Texas is probably stronger State vs State after the Top 10 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Servite isn't very much relevant on the national scene. Other than playing Bishop Gorman and American Fork, that's all there is to Servite's OOS resume. They had one good year last year and didn't make the most of it by scheduling nationally. Servite was much better than Duncanville last year, since we are talking "recently". Servite also gets benefit of the doubt for being better than Miami Central, Oscar Smith and East St. Louis vis a vis the SJB win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: I mean, Westlake's QB Sam Ehlinger was out due to an injury that game. Had he played, the result would've been way different. sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Sammy Swordsman said: Our teams based in the SF Valley (Jokes, Westlake Village) are generally lacking the linemen size that are prevalant in the Trinity League. The SF Valley teams have no business being ranked in the Top 75 Nationally. They like to play Utah teams because our teams think Utah is easy. In reality the Utah Top 3 are better than the Calif 10-20 ranked teams Texas is probably stronger State vs State after the Top 10 or so. That’s a fair assessment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Servite was much better than Duncanville last year, since we are talking "recently". Servite also gets benefit of the doubt for being better than Miami Central, Oscar Smith and East St. Louis vis a vis the SJB win. Servite stays riding on the coat-tails of SJB and MD. Daisy chaining isn’t always accurate. That’s why the games are played. Who knows, maybe Miami Central would’ve beat Servite last year. But guess what, we’ll never know. I do think Servite was better than Duncanville last year. They were scrambling for a QB, amongst other excuses, wasn’t their best year. But that’s the only year I would give Servite the nod to. Any other year, heck no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Servite stays riding on the coat-tails of SJB and MD. Daisy chaining isn’t always accurate. That’s why the games are played. Who knows, maybe Miami Central would’ve beat Servite last year. But guess what, we’ll never know. I do think Servite was better than Duncanville last year. They were scrambling for a QB, amongst other excuses, wasn’t their best year. But that’s the only year I would give Servite the nod to. Any other year, heck no. Agreed that Calif is very top heavy. With SJB and MD hogging up all the talent via transfers, and pop warner pipelines. QB gurus (aka Steve Clarkson types) funneling the top 8th graders to them as well. This really hurts the rest of the area who end up with only a few D-1 guys normally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Servite stays riding on the coat-tails of SJB and MD. Daisy chaining isn’t always accurate. That’s why the games are played. Who knows, maybe Miami Central would’ve beat Servite last year. But guess what, we’ll never know. I do think Servite was better than Duncanville last year. They were scrambling for a QB, amongst other excuses, wasn’t their best year. But that’s the only year I would give Servite the nod to. Any other year, heck no. Duncanville should only schedule big OOS games when they actually win Texas. Maybe they’ll learn n do better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Prior to last year when Servite broke through, I think SJB played MD in the D-1 playoff finals 4-5 times in a row. If you put SJB and MD into their own "open playoff bracket", the next 16 ranked teams would be an exciting bracket with potential first round upsets. Like it used to be prior to 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Since71 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Our teams based in the SF Valley (Jokes, Westlake Village) are generally lacking the linemen size that are prevalant in the Trinity League. The SF Valley teams have no business being ranked in the Top 75 Nationally. They like to play Utah teams because our teams think Utah is easy. In reality the Utah Top 3 are better than the Calif 10-20 ranked teams Texas is probably stronger State vs State after the Top 10 or so. Since when is Westlake village in the SF valley 😂 or Oaks Christian? Alemany yes Sierra Canyon yes not the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, 1Since71 said: Since when is Westlake village in the SF valley 😂 or Oaks Christian? Alemany yes Sierra Canyon yes not the others Ok…..smh. Ventura county. Same difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Swordsman Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 This is a reason why So Cal is top heavy. Transfer #38 to SJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sammy Swordsman Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Alot (way to many) of these teams will not play anyone with a pulse this season. Lazy polls love those type of schedules. Hard to dispute 14-0 or 13-1 and a top 100 finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Sammy Swordsman said: Alot (way to many) of these teams will not play anyone with a pulse this season. Lazy polls love those type of schedules. Hard to dispute 14-0 or 13-1 and a top 100 finish That's why SOS is such an important criteria. No team with a less than stellar SOS will ever grace the upper half of the NationalHSFB.com T25 Rankings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: That's why SOS is such an important criteria. No team with a less than stellar SOS will ever grace the upper half of the NationalHSFB.com T25 Rankings. In all this chest thumping you’re doing about your ranking, at the end of the season how do you determine if your ranking is more accurate than any other? 🧐 Edited June 28, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Horsefly said: In all this chest thumping you’re doing about your ranking, at the end of the season how do you determine if your ranking is more accurate than any other? 🧐 All that matters is how accurate it is at season's end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: All that matters is how accurate it is at season's end. That’s what I asked. Lol at seasons end how are you going to assess if your ranking is more accurate than anyone else’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: That’s what I asked. Lol at seasons end how are you going to assess if your ranking is more accurate than anyone else’s? Selecting the correct #1 team is all that matters. We will have the best MNC trophy, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Selecting the correct #1 team is all that matters. We will have the best MNC trophy, though! Most publications won’t mess up on that one, although I believe you will have a tougher justification on why you would keep SFA #1 if and when they run their schedule. Edited June 28, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: Most publications won’t mess up on that one, although I believe you will have a tougher justification on why you would keep SFA #1 if and when they run their schedule. SFA has the toughest schedule in America this season. Them going undefeated will be a lay-up #1 pick for me. And who knows, maybe it'll then force the top TL teams to schedule them in 2023 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, THEOC89 said: I Don’t think it’s tough at all if SFA Runs the Table and MD and SJB go 1-1 against each other then SFA should be #1….. SJB’s Schedule is not good enough to be #1 if they don’t sweep MD…. MD would have a Better argument then SJB with 1 loss because even if MD loses in League play to SJB, MD would still have 3 wins over the National Top 10…. If MD or SJB win out, their schedule will be much better. For starters one or the other will have a win over the other, and probably a win over Cen10 all in the playoffs. the toughest team on SFA incomplete schedule is IMG. (Maxpreps only has them with 5 games so far) One can’t brow beat on how important schedules are then reward a team with a much weaker one Edited June 28, 2022 by Horsefly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: SFA has the toughest schedule in America this season. Them going undefeated will be a lay-up #1 pick for me. And who knows, maybe it'll then force the top TL teams to schedule them in 2023 😉 Who are the toughest teams are their schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Who are the toughest teams are their schedule? Team-Final 2021 ranking East St Louis IL- 124 DeSoto TX- 63 Venice FL- 11 Dutch Fork SC- 169 Kahuku HI- 8 IMG FL- 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, THEOC89 said: Good Point!…. I thought they had a Full Schedule that Included IMG, DeSoto, Venice and Kuhaku which would be a Better schedule then SJB…. It doesn’t matter anyway because MD is not losing to SJB so SJB will be a Non Factor in the end…. 🤣 It won’t be a better schedule once CA conference/playoffs are included and they win out. They’ll potentially have games vs 3 top 5 teams. my argument isn’t a SJB one, as much as it is for whomever comes out of CA: assuming it’s SJB, MD or Cen10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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